Just a thought re. Turnover figures.....

I've not seen the financial reports, but wonder whether they show payments to the administrator of the Old Co. for legacy debts?

I'm sure that the RFL pay this directly to the administrator out of Salford's central funding and thus I wonder if any of it (funding in and legacy debt payments out) is recorded in the New Co's accounts?

Just as an aside, looking at those accounts (as a complete novice bearing in mind), although Salford’s total losses in the first two years under Koukash amount to £6.87m, the rate in which the Club is losing money year-on-year has been cut significantly: £5.14m in 2013–14 vs. £1.73m in 2014–15.

That said, the liabilities attached to the previous company were lumped in the first year accounts (c.£3.17m). Circa £25,000 per month appears to be coming out of the Club to service the resulting CVA. Those large liabilities appear to include directors’ loans too i.e. money plowed-in by Koukash himself.

Looking at the debtors there (c.£300k), my totally amateurish guess would be that Salford could even spend between say £1.6m–£1.8m on the cap. This would tie-in with what Wakefield chairman Michael Carter said to [i:e5kf5958League Weekly[/i:e5kf5958 (23 November 2015, p.7) and Salford around that mark, then everybody else gradually stepping up from there up to the big spenders, Wigan, St Helens and Leeds, who probably do spend the cap’.

There's nothing to stop a player busking every Saturday on Salford precinct with a friend of Marwan's generously throwing in the £50 notes. Could work as long as the player doesn't get mugged on the way back to his car





Well that's my point. It would surely be very easy for the extra monies to be paid to a player without it being connected in any way to M.K or anyone else connected directly to the club.
As long as it ended up going into his bank account,and he declared it to HMRC.
So what's the point in having a salary cap if it can easily be got round?

Regarding The Maserati car The Doc bought Niall Evalds for Winning the player of the year award last Season, how much did it cost? I know there a Common site around Eccles Seedley & Weaste

Essentially, goodwill is involved. When Melbourne Storm were found to be running two books and paying their top players in kind with ludicrous gifts, it only came to the attention of the authorities because of a whistleblower.

Bungs.

Well it doesnt take Albert Einstein to work out that backhanders have been going on since time immemorial.

Its a fact of life in Rugby League.

Every club has been involved - probably all 3 Divisions.

Players know this situation applies and it is all part of their `deal`.

Anybody disagree? If not time to move on and the Bulls to stay where they are in the Championship.

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Marwan is the one and only director of the dormant company that TP was allegedly doing consulting work. Plus that company appears to only have 1000 SRD shares as an asset

Agreed, had hoped Leigh would fall on their Arris and Bradford would wipe the floor with them, seems now I've got to hope Halifax or Sheffield do it to them both.

As for the obvious payments off book to players the minute one avenue closes the clubs/owners will just find a different one.

A single player can actively claim their rights have been breached. Even using the logic you seem to be using here, a player cannot earn say £2m a year. That he could do so doing a different job is irrelevant (or that would make it impossible for any restraint to ever exist in anything)

Besides, even if 'in theory' this didnt impact a players rights, if 'in practice' it did, it could still be ruled an illegal restraint.

The other problem you have is that until a players contract is registered, he cannot have acquiesced to any RFL stipulation because he cannot have a playing contract, nor can he be a player under RFL rules. Because the RFL have no agreement with him, they are refusing to do so. The SC does not strictly deal with players in contract, it strictly doesnt, it strictly deals with players not in contract. Because thats what the SC deals with, new contracts, not existing ones.

It is far close to Bosman than you imagine, the issue with Bosman was he was a player, out of contract, who couldnt transfer his registration because of a restriction imposed by Fifa. If Salford were to offer me X amount and that contract were to take me over the SC so the RFL refused my registration, i would be a player, out of contract, who couldnt transfer his registration because of a restriction imposed by fifa.

Should the SC be found legal, its reasoning would be that it is pro-competitive, those arguments are hard to make when you look at the actual recent history of the game.

Absolutely correct. I’m pretty certain that technically every club will have broke the rules in some way, however small. For instance take Warrington, it’s fairly common knowledge their players are privileged to get concert tickets from a club director who happens to be a music promoter. Where does the line stop with these rules? A Wembley or Grand Final celebration party dinner, a trip to the races, a few hundred quid in the pot towards mad Monday or even a free beer? Rules are rules aren’t they? The holier-than-thou, high ground stance from some people is laughable. If somebody stole a pound or a million pounds they are still a thief.

Just seen a Marwan tweet mentioning 2 tribunals and 2 fines this morning.