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Quote: theredshed "I can see the prop role changing with the reduction of interchanges. I think the position now lends itself more to props with a higher work rate and stamina rather than short stints of size and power. I agree another prop would be most welcome though.'"



Forster and Krasniqi did little wrong last season imo...good solid hard working props who fit your brief......both around 16.5 stone ...mobile and capable of bigger spells on the pitch...think the days of the Salford version of the Paleaaesina type props are over .......a couple of big drives then blowing for air ...won't be much use anymore.

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Quote: TheButcher "I wasn't referring to Salford, Stanley, just to the notion that people band that phrase around in a negative context when there's talented players in that league. '"


There maybe plenty of talented players knocking around the lower leagues, but that doesn't mean they can cut the mustard in Superleague, we're talking a massive gulf here in ability. We always seem to sign the garbage. The odd one or two like Hardaker and Hill just to mention a few rightly get picked up by the bigger clubss. We on the other hand pick out the odd gem in Coley once in every blue moon. Our newly formed pack with the likes of Joseph, Griffin, Krasniqi, Haggerty, and the Walnuts have really got to improve ten fold if we're going to deny Leigh's push for glory this year. Yes i feel negative with this pack in fact i'd go as far as saying its the worst i've ever seen beating the Steve Hurbett and David Major days. Well on paper it is anyway. And thats saying something, I've seen some Shite.

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Quote: TheButcher "We need to build our credibility to grow our team, both on and off the pitch. We need to start somewhere and I think the last few seasons have been wasted years trying to do it the quick way.

The irony here is that during the time we had 'names' playing for us, a lot of people were clamouring for us to grow through the Academy and youth and have players that want to graft and play for the shirt. When we get that they're underwhelmed by it and start with the doom and gloom. I don't really understand what they want. You can't suddenly have both until you've made a mark on SL for a few seasons.

I'm concerned about certain aspects of the team, but I think it would be folly to cast judgement at this stage.'"


Spot on Butcher the money is easily wasted without good foundations and it doesn't happen overnight. We have to aim to progress year after year at a realistic pace. It's about developing the right culture, getting the right mix and investing more time, money and energy in youth. I have to agree though that the first thing we need to do is to focus on rebuilding our diminished credibility in the game. The last 4 years have been a complete PR nightmare in the face of some hard work, ambition and best intentions.

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Quote: theredshed "Spot on Butcher the money is easily wasted without good foundations and it doesn't happen overnight. We have to aim to progress year after year at a realistic pace. It's about developing the right culture, getting the right mix and investing more time, money and energy in youth. I have to agree though that the first thing we need to do is to focus on rebuilding our diminished credibility in the game. The last 4 years have been a complete PR nightmare in the face of some hard work, ambition and best intentions.'"


Correct but it's the Doctors money that you're talking about,because our contribution doesn't scratch the surface.
When he first came in it didn't look like he was a long term bet,and he might well turn out to be,so it wasn't about building it from firm roots.
Cutting through the crap,we all want success. Plan A has failed,but it was fascinating.
I hope he has the patience for Plan B.

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Quote: Bonita Red "I hope he has the patience for Plan B.'"


We're already on Plan B. Plan C looks imminent if any more of the squad repeat Vidots wretched luck.

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Quote: Bonita Red "Correct but it's the Doctors money that you're talking about,because our contribution doesn't scratch the surface.
When he first came in it didn't look like he was a long term bet,and he might well turn out to be,so it wasn't about building it from firm roots.
Cutting through the crap,we all want success. Plan A has failed,but it was fascinating.
I hope he has the patience for Plan B.'"


True it will have cost him a lot and no supporter wants to see their club or club owner not getting value for money. Be it the Docs cash, the £2 million sky money each year or the other income the club generates.

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