joel monaghan the larker with the barker.

No are kyd, they're two slow.

Cheers for that I've seen it now he got 6 this year, as you say it may have been down to the tactics being played but I'll reserve judgement until after this season to see how we play and how effective we are at utilising Carneys fantastic talent.

You're right in that it's not enough. It's just not enough for either centre, and I think Sau comes in for unwarranted criticism sometimes when the other centre is equally not providing. I really think it is more a tactics thing, but I'm quite happy to be proven otherwise.

I would agree with you there maybe Griffin doesn't come in for as much criticism due to the amount of points he individually scores so people tend to over look it.

At times this year and last it looked like we were just using the centres as props out wide.

I just would have liked to see us get a more talented centre than what we have, it shown against Cats away when Paterson played centre what can be achieved the winger saw more ball that game than he did for the rest of the season.

I didn't go to HKR, so allowing for that, I did see a different team attitude from Sau at Widnes and at thh last home game. There were rumours of he being given a bit of a warning/talking to at the time.