I've said all along ill accept getting beat tonight aslong as its not a wash out and we beat Widnes on sky.

I think most of us prefer raw, unchoreographed passion, to be honest. Nothing stage-managed.

The performance was, as a number have said, worrying. Silly forward passes, silly knock-ons, silly kicks out on the full... And the tackling really beggared belief. It's strange how we can look decent one moment and like a side who's never played the sport before the next. Something needs sorting. Quite what, I can only speculate over.

Your take on it is?

I think the coaching is wrong, not just at Salford but more RL in general. I remember at school (back when pictures where black & white) that if someone ran at you the technique was go low and wrap the legs up and they fall over the top of you. That way there was less gang tackling and less likelihood of infringement.
Today it seems less about the tackle and more about slowing the play the ball down, with 2 less tacklers committed for me the speed would matter less and create a better spectacle for fans.

I also think there is a chronic issue at Salford with fitness, I suspect we are concentrating more on power than cardio fitness, it's all well and good being able to lift the heaviest weights, but if you can only do it once it's kind of redundant for a rugby player.

Just want to drop in and say thanks to your travelling fans and the Doc for a entertaining game friday. That Evalds is really something, hold on to him and you've got a star. Good to see some of the bad blood from last year between the two clubs disappearing. I think if you get your fitness sorted out you'll have some good performances this year. Dobbo doesn't look that intrested though.

I think it's definitely a technique problem, although sometimes I'm unsure as to whether or not it's an effort problem as well. The amount of tackles you see the opposition bounce out of, or just skip past, is scary. There were plenty of 'tackles' on Friday that just didn't happen, as well, as defenders stood back and watched. Whether that's down to the lack of effort or poor technique meaning they can't get into a proper position in time, I don't know. Judging by the amount of offloads we give up, it's probably as much technical as anything else.

Good point about the fitness, too. We don't seem to have the legs for 80 minutes a lot of the time.

Ricky Stuart said it best when he was head coach at Sydney Roosters. Responding to a question in a press conference about whether Adrian Morley had a poor tackling technique after yet another high shot, Stuart said: ‘No. I want him to tackle the ball.’

You can interpret that in two ways. Either it was a thinly veiled admission that Morley was being employed as an enforcer, or he was indeed being told to tackle the ball.