I don't understand how people can say we won't win until chase has gone. Can I ask how? As some people have stated you can't play him in a system are you mad? Someone please remind me of what happened in the last 10 games of last season? If rangi can't play in a system how did we manage to win 7 of those games? Also what have we been watching him do since last season play off the cuff rugby, no we haven't we have seen him play in a structured and systematic game plan and it has worked. The problem isn't rangi at all we won't start to win anything until we get consistent performances from 13 guys in the middle of the pitch not one person. Rangi is one of the best players you will ever watch, he has a great footballing brain with skills and attributes that not many other sl players have. Yes he has his off days but who doesn't. Your saying we will win nothing with him have you thought about the consequences of him not being in our team. No matter how many systems are in place you CAN NOT defend against rangi's creativity on the ball. You say we will win nothing with him I'm going to say well win nothing without him

Yes, I noticed that, and on SKY.Thought they would of known

These comments really surprise me Butcher. Correct me if I am wrong but I seem to remember you suggesting you wouldn't be opposed to letting Chase go so long back suggesting that he was too unpredictable? I think you mentioned or were leaning towards the thought that for the salary he was on it would be better spent elsewhere if memory serves me correct? I totally agree with your comments above however because having that unpredictability surely is a good thing?

I think you're mistaken, mate.

I don't think I've ever said anything like that. If you could find it I'll hold my hand up, but I can't think in what context I'd say that.

not having a dig or anything, I just remember thinking it odd at the time as I actually think you are one of the more sensible posters on here. I'm sure it was when we were going through a sticky patch last year, either way I think its a fantastic weapon to have when your opponents cant guess what is going to happen next..

I watched the NRL game this morning and the way Parramatta were described as playing Chris Sandow struck me as being how we should handle Chase.

The commentators were saying that Brad Arthur keeps Sandow away from the more structured play and gave him a free license to roam on both sides and work his magic as he did countless times today. Very similar player to chase, both small in stature and incredibly gifted off the cuff players.