Devastating is not a word I like to use very often but after that performance last night, I think it merits it!

Salford needed to win against saints to send out a message to those fans who are sitting on the fence about whether to come back and start watching them, unfortunately that message was sent out loud and clear and has probably pushed Salford back another 6 months in trying to persuade them to return.

I got the feeling last night that the players believed in their own hype and thought all they need to do is turn up. They lacked composure, fitness, energy and most of all passion! Salford need big fast mobile forwards like Greenwood, McCarthy-Scarsbrook, Amor etc. These type of players will give you energy, drive and size and will lay down the platform for the backs to do their stuff. Salford also need to pay attention to the detail on and off the pitch and I don’t mean just detail on how they play but detail on how they look, perception is very important for example I personally hate it when I see players wearing socks pulled down, they look unprofessional and scruffy. I think every single Saints player last night had their socks pulled up and looked smart and professional throughout the whole game. I know it sounds daft saying stuff like that but it is just an example of the marginal gains on and off the pitch that make the difference, ask Dave Brailsford he will tell you. We need a complete overhaul on stuff like the player’s diet, the players sleeping regime even down to what type of car they drive, all these things will have a bearing on what type of condition they will be in mentally and physically when playing a game.

Sorry for the moan but I am just gutted and I don’t think things could really get any worse. We need to reset ourselves work even harder and quietly go about our business and stop bigging ourselves up until we earn the right!

One last thing and a few fans have touched on this already but we definitely need players who are fans of the club, they will give you more passion and desire. Just look across the ship canal to our neighbours United and the class of 92. The reason why they were and are so successful was because they had Scholes, Beckham, Neville, Butt and Giggs all fans and all willing to die for the club!

On par with Daniel Taylor's Utd/boob job analogy... excellent work.

On the topic of MCB can Harris give him extra homework with Martin Gleeson on how to tackle one-on-one? Some skills balls in hand but Christ I can tackle better than him.

I said at the time that Hock should have been hurtled out of the door after last year's farce and he's not doing anything to prove me wrong.

What concerned me most about Wire, and in my opinion was the primary cause of the debacle last night, is the absolute lack of team spirit. Watch the footage again on Vimeo of when BJB scores - they look unenthusiastic to say the least. You need game time to gel a team on the pitch but they've had plenty of time to gel off it now.

no TEAM SPIRIT...just a team of individuals. If Salford start a game well, then they are dangerous. Fall behind by 12+ points, and they just 'go through the motions'.

Sad as this is I think it's probably right, on Thursday there was no little effort and endevour, I remember Saints breaking the line at one point and you could actually see the spirit drain from the Salford side and it just continued to ebb away afterwards.

I can see this situation developing one or two ways. Lose the next couple and the players will start blaming Harris and the rest of the coaching team, or this could prove a huge wake up call and we'll see a huge reaction against Hull and Catalan. If the Doc's actions are anything to go by after Thursday I'd be extremely worried that he could pull the plug and that I could have a tidy contract terminated soon if I was a coach or player.

Players look for excuses when the pressure is on them, like they did with Noble. Then after a coach is sacked they come out publicly and display sympathy for the coach.

Hopefully it won't come to this and we'll see the team playing to its potential soon.

Not a great night for your boys especially so as they were being talked up bigtime by the media and the TV pundits.

Its early days yet. If it is any consolation take a look at Saints results from last season. We were on the end of a right good few knobbings throughout the season, noteably Catalan( A), both Hull clubs (A) and Warrington at Magic. These were real embarrassing defeats were again the commitment/ team spirit/ coaching staff were called into question. Clearly it came right in the end despite the adversity in the treatment room.

I think you need to take a step back, stick with it and see how the season pans out. Your team got good reports admittedly in defeat at the HJ so one poor outing is not a total disaster.