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Quote: Michigan red "

Being serious, a mate of mine with whom I go to games just texted me and said imagine trying to explain that to a new fan.
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Am I the only person to find that the new structure is actually quite easy to follow?

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I actually think that the formula is more interesting and exciting to lower SL teams and those currently outside of SL. The top few teams will just play with themselves endlessly in a kind of Celtic v Rangers fashion to decide who wins their top tier gong. Even entering into the cup late. The top part of SL will have its competitive games but with repetition among Clubs which will eventually suck any excitement out of them. Oh look. it's Wigan v Leeds again for the fifth time this season.

There's definitely excitement to be had lower down, but Championship sides are only having a carrot dangled in front of them with little chance of actually getting into the top tier. The gulf that exists will still exist. The cap difference is still too wide.

We'll have to see how it pans out in real life before slating it too much. As it stands on paper, it seems like a lot of fuss to basically keep the status quo.

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Whilst not agreeing with everything, it is very easy to understand.

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I honestly think it is a great idea and gives team outside the top 8 something to play for. Teams like us that have been yo-yoing between divisions for years! imagine promotion and relegation and us and leigh (just an example) swapping positions every year. because every team that gets relegated is full time so they have a bigger advantage .

Also no matter what anyone says, everyone likes a final! (northern rail cup, blackpool?! great laugh)
And its giving more chance for finals for teams outside the top 8-10 a chance to have more meanigful games against the same kind of teams.

I think we should see what happens first before anyone slates it

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Quote: bubble the red "I honestly think it is a great idea and gives team outside the top 8 something to play for. Teams like us that have been yo-yoing between divisions for years! imagine promotion and relegation and us and leigh (just an example) swapping positions every year. because every team that gets relegated is full time so they have a bigger advantage .

Also no matter what anyone says, everyone likes a final! (northern rail cup, blackpool?! great laugh)
And its giving more chance for finals for teams outside the top 8-10 a chance to have more meanigful games against the same kind of teams.

I think we should see what happens first before anyone slates it'"


If a SL team drops down it gets its cap slashed. The cap for Championship teams is still too far away to attract big names, plus a raised cap wont mean full-time for every Club outside of SL. Although the formula is interesting for teams at the bottom of SL and below, it's just a carrot for them. The reality is that they are very unlikely to shift a low SL team off the ladder. We've had quite a few years of licensing and what it has done is allowed teams like Cas, Widnes and Us to be financially light years ahead of those in the Championship. Look at the gulf between the competitive sides right now in SL. Bradford and London are way off the mark but they would probably be too strong over a number of games for most Championship sides.

I don't know about you, but I feel no excitement whatsoever with the potential of seeing my Club spend half a season on it's ass, then grouped against a host of contenders from a league that has in place a set of rules that make them half the sides of their SL counterparts. You could have the likes of Locke, Sau, Dobson, and Chase ripping a part-time squad to pieces for the ultimate prize of doing it all over again the following season. They're telling the lower half of SL that they have to earn their place for regular beatings the next season, and Championship Clubs that if they can somehow overcome the crippling financial restraints that they can possibly have a place in the SL whipping-boys category for the next season.

It wont matter to those top SL sides supporters who get to put their arms around each other in perpetual derbies safe in the knowledge that they'll never drop out of their elite Club.

It may work. We'll have to see, but I just can't see it.

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I think it sounds more complicated that it actually is. Once it's put into practice it'll hopefully seem less so. That's what I'm hoping for anyway because I haven't the foggiest.

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