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only half decent what does that make you lot then

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Quote: Red John "I appreciate you're upset and embarrassed about being pulled up over your 'delusional' post, but really? It's a series of questions. What's dumb about that? Do you think he'll be playing to whatever level you think he's playing at now in one, two or three years time?'"


You're missing the point completely.

You're saying he's a has-been but he's playing well. Has-been's are players that were good but are now past it. Higham isn't past it yet.

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Regardless of Higham playing well in your opinion this year, he is past his best so theoretically he is a has-been. As in, 'has been' better in the past. It's not a criticism, time catches up with every player.

There's nothing to be ashamed about having 'has been' players in your squad, we have several and all teams in Superleague have them. They all contribute, just not to the same level they could at their peak.

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Quote: Vespid_Wire "
You're missing the point completely.

You're saying he's a has-been but he's playing well. Has-been's are players that were good but are now past it. Higham isn't past it yet.'"

Theredshed's post just up there sums up what I mean. Remember, we're talking about Mickey in the context of a potential Salford signing, so that's not going to be until 2015 at the earliest. No matter what standard he's playing to, he's 33 now, 34 by the start of 2015 and age catches up with us all. He's never likely to see the inside of an international shirt again (although, to be fair, he's not seen the inside of many in the past either), and, I suspect, he won't be as effective next year or the year after. Ergo, if we were to sign him, we'd be signing a has-been.

Broadening it a bit, a signing like that is what you'd see (perhaps unfairly) as a typical Nobby signing. In fact, to some extent, a typical Salford signing. We've had probably more than our fair share of GB internationals playing for us over the years, but they all, pretty much to a man, played for us after their international careers were over. It's something we moved away from under Karl Harrison, but seemed to be creeping back towards under Nobby. It's one of the reasons why I disagree with the view that seems to pop up on the Warrington forum that Marwan was wrong to remove him.

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Quote: Red John "Theredshed's post just up there sums up what I mean. Remember, we're talking about Mickey in the context of a potential Salford signing, so that's not going to be until 2015 at the earliest. No matter what standard he's playing to, he's 33 now, 34 by the start of 2015 and age catches up with us all. He's never likely to see the inside of an international shirt again (although, to be fair, he's not seen the inside of many in the past either), and, I suspect, he won't be as effective next year or the year after. Ergo, if we were to sign him, we'd be signing a has-been.

Broadening it a bit, a signing like that is what you'd see (perhaps unfairly) as a typical Nobby signing. In fact, to some extent, a typical Salford signing. We've had probably more than our fair share of GB internationals playing for us over the years, but they all, pretty much to a man, played for us after their international careers were over. It's something we moved away from under Karl Harrison, but seemed to be creeping back towards under Nobby. It's one of the reasons why I disagree with the view that seems to pop up on the Warrington forum that Marwan was wrong to remove him.'"


Fair enough. In the context of a Salford signing he would be a has-been yes. We'll probably get one more season out of him.

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I thought the lad from Kr had been signed up by a Nrl club. As for Logan looked poor at Wigan but seems to be playing to decent standard for you boys.

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