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Quote: Walshovski "It is history but it's far from irrelevant EB. Further proof (as if any were needed) of the shambles that was our club under Wilky, Tarry, Simms et al. The article is clearly the bitter rantings of an ex-employee but no one really doubts that the substance of it is true.'"


Doesn't it just prove EVERY club misses such chances? Charnley was there for anyone's taking.

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Quote: Red John "Not necessarily. In each case, the people involved (the scout on the one hand and the representatives of the club on the other) are trying to assess the [ipotential[/i of a young player. Sometimes you get it right, sometimes you get it wrong, but to suggest this particular set of events is symptomatic of the club as a whole in that period is a bit of a stretch. In Charnley's case, for example, it would appear that Wigan didn't rate him too highly at that time either, given that they were paying him such a pittance. You can also cite the cases of young players like Scott Naylor and Matty Smith who weren't considered up to scratch by their respective clubs, but who Salford, under the same management, saw the potential in.'"


I don't doubt the difficulty in identifying young players. I remember Alan Hunte saying at Forever Reds how we had the option on Sam Tomkins but passed on him. These things happen but I'm happy to view the MEN article in light of everything we know about the club in that era and say, with confidence, that whatever good practice in this area is, we weren't doing it.

It would be more of a stretch to draw the conclusion that this area of the club was functioning well while the rest of the club was clearly not fit for purpose.

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And scouts will always lament the ones that got way.... But only the ones that made it!

A few years ago, I suggested a young amateur player to one of the development staff. A lad who at 14 and 15 looked very average among a team with 9 others who went to pro clubs. At 16, in the absence of former team mates who had signed, this player blossomed and is now, deservedly so, a first choice in the Saints side.

Now 21 years old, of those 9, only two have made SL appearances.

For all of the, so called, player selection and development, it is so easy to get it wrong when trying to pick out those who will make it and those who will fall by the wayside.

A sad fact for the youngsters involved is that in scholarships and academies, a small number of players will make it while they others are just there to provide the teams in which they play. The ones that don't continue with the SL clubs can still have good RL careers elsewhere while others become disillusioned and stop playing altogether. I know a number of good young players, including one who did play SL, who have hung up their boots.

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Quote: Walshovski "I don't doubt the difficulty in identifying young players. I remember Alan Hunte saying at Forever Reds how we had the option on Sam Tomkins but passed on him. These things happen but I'm happy to view the MEN article in light of everything we know about the club in that era and say, with confidence, that whatever good practice in this area is, we weren't doing it.

It would be more of a stretch to draw the conclusion that this area of the club was functioning well while the rest of the club was clearly not fit for purpose.'"


I agree, and I don't think anyone is making, or has ever made, that stretch. It's just unfortunate that the people who have decided the previous administration was a shambles still seem to want to fight yesterday's battles (perhaps recognising that they never quite managed to land the killer blow) and pounce on any negative report to labour their point.

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