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Quote: the_grobs "As a Cas fan we of course played Salford at the beginning of the season. Our directors took the opportunity to speak with your directors during the game so that we could gain a better understanding of the required business model to sustain a new stadium. Ourselves at Cas, need 8500 per home game to reach a break even position and this is on a ground that we own and have minimal overheads. The business model presented to our directors was that for us to run a stadium like that of Salford's, we would need to average approx 10k to 10.5k per home game to break even.

The financial hole could be bigger than you expect and I would keep my ear to the ground if I was you. Otherwise as one fan to another best of luck!'"


Sorry to hear the current status guys, however I did offer a little insight a few months ago for those willing to listen.

Best of luck!!

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Quote: red13pjb "I have to disagree with the post that we didn't get good crowds in the glory years. My dad constantly refers to the cup quarter final against Widnes (I think) when he had to climb over the wall cos the gates had been locked before kick off. Also he goes on about an Easter Monday game with Wigan when it was blazing hot and the club sold out of ale. We reportedly got 5000 turn up for an 'A' team match when Watkins made his debut.'"


Making a direct comparison is also futile because RL crowds were a lot lower across the board.

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Quote: theredshed "The problem with a league of 10 teams is that 9 home fixtures isn’t enough (Not financially viable)'"


Yes, this is where the argument falls down every time. I know some commentators have looked to the NFL-model of 'less is more' but, to be frank, comparing English RL to it is mental.

Quote: theredshed "OK they could come up with a system of playing some teams twice at home and some once but it would just make a complete mockery of the whole competition.'"


I think there are a number of ways it could work. It's certainly something that could give the playoffs more kudos.

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Quote: Chico "Making a direct comparison is also futile because RL crowds were a lot lower across the board.'"


Quite right throughout the 1970's rugby league attendances were in decline. I recall Salford in the late 1960's getting a couple of bumper cup crowds against Workington and Widnes at the Willows in the region of 16,000. Between the late 60's and around 1971 we regularly got 10,000+ crowds and despite winning two championships in 1974 and 1976 we never averaged more than about 6,000.

RL attendances didn't really recover until the early 1980's when Hull and Wigan brought over several overseas stars.

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Quote: "I think you also have to take into consideration the potential negative impact a league of only 10 could have long term on broadcasting and attendances. Reducing the league from 14 to 10 would result in a 30% reduction in the variety of different fixtures and Sky would be televising the same teams more frequently'"


Sky do this anyway don't they? I'm sick of seeing the same 4 or 5 clubs all season. It is coincidentally the same 4 or 5 clubs who are winning and bringing in the crowds. Sky don't care about the also-rans. They have an image that they want to portray of the game and they work to a script. Look how stumped they were when we took Wire to the cleaners last year.

The problem with a league of 10 is as has been mentioned before not enough variety of fixtures/ not enough revenue from reduced fixtures. We would have the same situation that we have with the Scottish Premiership with teams playing each other 3 or 4 times a season. Quite boring!!!

The biggest problem with RL in this country is that there are too many people with vested interests who control the game. In Australia teams who finish top one season can find themselves bottom the season after. When did that last happen over here? The likes of Gary Hetherington and co who seem to always be pushing the agenda when it comes to development don't want the Salford's and Wakefield's and Castleford's to be up at the top because it upsets his power balance. Development for them is the strong clubs getting stronger and expanding the World Club challenge which the Aussies couldn't give a to$$ about. They think that that is the way we will end up beating them at international level and that it would represent success in developing the game. Nearly 30 years of the WCC have proved that we are no closer to beating the Aussies!!

It is going to take a huge re-think in the way the game is administered and the removal of the power held within it by certain individuals who want to promote the game through the same 4 or 5 clubs. The aim should be to have as equal a competition as we can but the current administration have not got that kind of vision or motivation for the game. They need to be realistic about who we as a game can attract as investors. We do not have the clout or media power of football nor do we have the public school old boys network of Rugby Union. Our pool of investors is limited to a small number of enthusiasts and smaller companies who cannot afford the advertising/ sponsorship of the aforementioned other football codes so they put some money our way.

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Quote: red13pjb "Sky do this anyway don't they? I'm sick of seeing the same 4 or 5 clubs all season. '"


Yes I agree but it would be even more of an overkill than it is now.

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