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| Boom!mate that's too much like a reasonable post for on here. You should know only doom and gloom need apply for scarlet turkey. Also love the response from Hunte! Nice dig!
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| The Salford response to Diamond's remarks should tell those of you who don't see this as an issue exactly why we need to be wary of Sale and everything they do.
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| I agree KMT! I am sure like the rest, you agree we need to move on but too many on here press the doom button before seeing the fine print. We need investment if we are to survive, we are sinking & before I condemn what has been suggested I would welcome investment if it meant we could also grow. We will not survive being the only tenant & for me I will take rugby 12 months of the year. I am not saying we should roll over but show me the long line of investors waiting to put a bid in.
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| [size=200I TOLD YOU SO[/size
Who's talking poop now. But still the wats remain gods. These cowboys stole your hard earned Lyrad Red that makes you a bigger one. 
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| Quote KMT="KMT"Boom!mate that's too much like a reasonable post for on here. You should know only doom and gloom need apply for scarlet turkey. Also love the response from Hunte! Nice dig!'"
The club is in a stadium we don't own, can't afford and have no say over with a proven predatory rival on the verge of trampling all over us with our club appearing periless and unable to resist. Point me to the sunlit uplands, please?
Why do you love the response from Hunte if you don't think this is a problem?
I wish some of our fans would follow the logic backwards and see why we our so poorly supported and in such a poor position as opposed to saying 'Wilky is brilliant, the club do a marvellous job - why don't the people of Salford flock to watch such a consistently underperforming and poorly run organisation.'
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| Quote redgunner="redgunner"I agree KMT! I am sure like the rest, you agree we need to move on but too many on here press the doom button before seeing the fine print. We need investment if we are to survive, we are sinking & before I condemn what has been suggested I would welcome investment if it meant we could also grow. We will not survive being the only tenant & for me I will take rugby 12 months of the year. I am not saying we should roll over but show me the long line of investors waiting to put a bid in.'"
People aren't kicking off about investment. Read Steve Diamond's comments again and see why people are worried for the future of a club that has represented the people of Salford for 133 years.
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| Quote redgunner="redgunner"I think some need to get real! I am Salford through & through I have my own business & the economics are quite simple, fans don't buy its product it will go out of business or be sold to save!
We were dead at the willows with no prospect, we have a fighting chance at Barton we need to see the small print before we condemn every word said! From where I sit we are not in a strong position to dictate who comes & who goes?
We have an hard core fan base of no more than 3000 & unless we have deep pockets the stadium company will not put up with this long term, surely we understand this, if Sale or whoever can tempt 10000 fans to each game whether we like it or not we will become second best unless we can attract a new fan base.
We do not own the stadium but we are in the box seat having had Salford council put around £10million of tax payers funds into making this happen. If we believe we have a product then the club & us need to sell it, the Salford public do not seem to care enough that's part of the problem.'"
Well said redgunner. Hearts ruling heads on here. IF the club had a decent marketing set up we should be excited that 10,000 Sale fans will be treading their paths to Barton to watch a much inferior game played by much inferior players. Salford have opportunities galore should the Sharks come to capitalise on a much wider audience. We have a better product so lets earn out of it.
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| Quote redgunner="redgunner"I think some need to get real! I am Salford through & through I have my own business & the economics are quite simple, fans don't buy its product it will go out of business or be sold to save!
We were dead at the willows with no prospect, we have a fighting chance at Barton we need to see the small print before we condemn every word said! From where I sit we are not in a strong position to dictate who comes & who goes?
We have an hard core fan base of no more than 3000 & unless we have deep pockets the stadium company will not put up with this long term, surely we understand this, if Sale or whoever can tempt 10000 fans to each game whether we like it or not we will become second best unless we can attract a new fan base.
We do not own the stadium but we are in the box seat having had Salford council put around £10million of tax payers funds into making this happen. If we believe we have a product then the club & us need to sell it, the Salford public do not seem to care enough that's part of the problem.'"
You have to ask yourself how have we ended up in this situation? It is the 'becoming second best' part that people are worried about. Despite the Salford council money it seems that Sale already have primary tenancy so will have first choice on fixtures etc and thats before they have even moved in. How exactly are we in the box seat? What 'small print' are you expecting to be in there that will turn this into a good deal for us? There are no positives in this for Salford from what I can see.
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| Quote Early Bath="Early Bath"Well said redgunner. Hearts ruling heads on here. IF the club had a decent marketing set up we should be excited that 10,000 Sale fans will be treading their paths to Barton to watch a much inferior game played by much inferior players. Salford have opportunities galore should the Sharks come to capitalise on a much wider audience. We have a better product so lets earn out of it.'"
Can you list some of these opportunities?
Considering Sale are likely to drop the 'Sale' tag from their name to appeal to a wider audience, can't see why these people would then attach themselves to a team called Salford?
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| Quote Early Bath="Early Bath"Well said redgunner. Hearts ruling heads on here. IF the club had a decent marketing set up we should be excited that 10,000 Sale fans will be treading their paths to Barton to watch a much inferior game played by much inferior players. Salford have opportunities galore should the Sharks come to capitalise on a much wider audience. We have a better product so lets earn out of it.'"
Supporting League or Union is not just about watching inferior/superior products as we all wish it would be, it is about many social factors and the history of both sports feeds into that. There is a large amount of people who simply prefer Rugby Union over League come what may and vice versa. On a simpler level many people prefer to watch good teams. There is little doubt over the last decade who has had more success between us and Sale and in the decade to come that is unlikely to change.
Nothing is more unlikely than Sale coming to Barton leading to a large influx of new Salford supporters coming from the Union ranks. Salford don't have the skill, resources or nous to do it. The much more likely outcome is any wavering supporters who are not particularly wedded to one code will be attracted to Sale by their superior off the field operation coupled with a decent side and their crowds will be blossom while we continue to stagnate.
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| Taken from the union thread (yes, there is one),
Quote Shark J="Shark J"If you go over to our forum and look up a couple of recent topics made by J Moon you'll see how unhappy I am. I am pretty upset to be honest and I don't think I'm gonna continue supporting them, depending on what happens.
A bit of investigative work last night by me and a person on there made us realise we'll be changing the name to just Sharks. I suppose that's not as bad as putting a new word at the front but I don't like the name Sale being dropped.
As I said on there I have lost a lot of respect for Steve Diamond and the way he's handled all this.
If any Salford fans are reading this then rest assured 99% of Sale fans are very unhappy at the moment, with regards to both the ground move and the name change. With this primacy of tenure issue it seems we've done it again. Left it until the last minute to p!ss off another bunch of fans like we did with Stockport.
Good luck with it. Sale FC apparently have a plan in place to do 5 consecutive promotions to reach The Championship in 5 seasons. I'll probably go and watch them as I've said before. I might go to the occasional game, I'll be glad to see Sharks have won their games, I'll probably go to away games as I like getting to the different grounds, but my heart won't be in it like it was.'"
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