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| Ok some of the fans on here will agree and disagree with the points i am going to make particular the ones i make about our chairman Mr JW.
1. We are going to be a struggling club for a least another 3 years, reasons:
A: The players we have signed this year on 2-3 years deal are not good enough and as a club we can not afford to pay them off and recruit new better younger players.
B: The signings we are making for 2012 are (apart from Moon who's injured) very average particular in a key role (prop), James and Gledhill. The lack of go forward and tempo of our go forward is key for our halves to be playing on the front font and the man reason top teams get results, with our average front rowers this is going to be very difficult.
C: Our Head Coach, don't think he knows the SL game and systems remarks he has made about Ratchford leaving ??? why is this wrong, we was foolish enough not to renew his contract last year or the year before last! This gun hoe attitude only last for a limited time. He is totally unproven, people compare him to mcguire at Wigan that is so wrong Mcguire was in the melbourne storm system for around 5 years and was currently employed by Melbourne. Parish was unemployed and reports from the players he is unapproachable also heard on the grape vine he likes to 'socialise' a lot this is not very professional. Sean Long coming in, unproven coach, yes good player doesn't mean good coach far from it. Name all the world class ex players head coach of any SL clubs ( i know he is not going to be head coach BTW).
2: Board, management etc:
A: Chairman thank you so so so much for the years it is now time to stand down i think your understanding of running a SL club is to old fashioned and not enough rugby savvy for this modern era.
B: Simms needs to go poor signing after signing after signing i could put a whole topic on the reasons why he needs to go.
C: Tarry the CEO needs to go same reasons for point A:
We need to bring an ultra smart modern sports minded CEO to deal with contracts and running of a professional organisation. We need to replace Steve simms with an ex modern player to deal with all non playing matters like the NRL have a football manager, cater for players off field needs, happy people, happy players, better performances. This role will not deal with contracts this will be left to the shrewd CEO.
Marketing full clean slate of people unprofessional today and the past 5 years have proven time and time again shoddy match day experience, advertising etc.
2. New Youth coaches Lee Spencer i think in charge of the u20's if its the same one i have encountered in the local amateur game, this is very worrying. Same
3.Conditioning staff, all need to go, unfit, weak and over weight.
All of these problems will be solved in 2 very good appointments a new CEO and Chairman!
I know some will discredit my remarks but being a paying season ticket customer i just want to raise my points.
NEW STADIUM, NEW STAFF, NEW ERA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| how this is another post that makes me laugh / cringe! Really as an outsider if one read the origional post one would conlude he/she hit the nail on the head! Only thing I am of the wrong opinion is regard MP?!? He has gone from coaching the best RL game annualy in the SOO to coming to Salford, whom amonsgt their ranks have over weight, ill motivated and as real it seems talentless players! I for one can give it to him as a culture shock! Bind him time as let him see what he can do! As for the Wilky love fest from what I heard tonight he is ready to go and is actively looking to relase the club from his hands! And in his words he will be approaching people or let them approach them in the near future! As a man I think a lot of Salford fans will defend him as he has pumped a lot of money in the club and keep us afloat as people like to distinct! However as a chairman when he continually employes the wrong people time after time, surely people must ask questions? In my time supporting SCR he has only made 3 good head coach employments, Andy Greg, Karl Harrison and although unproven MP. SS under his tenure is stealing a wage and after him being peed as a fart in the club tonight it obvious he is stealing a wage! Under JW tenure we have had no decent marketing? Stratergy? decent back room appointments? Whilst people's opions on this website are "swayed" due to their apparent friendship with the afor mentioned Mr Wilkinson whislt he has invested sincerley out of his own pocket as a chairman he has failed. If we had some self styled football billionaire, would you think JW would be still employed after poor management and everything that goes behind prossefional sports club? (For all those perfectionst out there one will note my spelling hasn't been what it should be tonight! One would hope "use" will give me slack as I have been on the strong stuff since 11 bells )
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| Quote: programmethrower "how this is another post that makes me laugh / cringe! Really as an outsider if one read the origional post one would conlude he/she hit the nail on the head! Only thing I am of the wrong opinion is regard MP?!? He has gone from coaching the best RL game annualy in the SOO to coming to Salford, whom amonsgt their ranks have over weight, ill motivated and as real it seems talentless players! I for one can give it to him as a culture shock! Bind him time as let him see what he can do! As for the Wilky love fest from what I heard tonight he is ready to go and is actively looking to relase the club from his hands! And in his words he will be approaching people or let them approach them in the near future! As a man I think a lot of Salford fans will defend him as he has pumped a lot of money in the club and keep us afloat as people like to distinct! However as a chairman when he continually employes the wrong people time after time, surely people must ask questions? In my time supporting SCR he has only made 3 good head coach employments, Andy Greg, Karl Harrison and although unproven MP. SS under his tenure is stealing a wage and after him being peed as a fart in the club tonight it obvious he is stealing a wage! Under JW tenure we have had no decent marketing? Stratergy? decent back room appointments? Whilst people's opions on this website are "swayed" due to their apparent friendship with the afor mentioned Mr Wilkinson whislt he has invested sincerley out of his own pocket as a chairman he has failed. If we had some self styled football billionaire, would you think JW would be still employed after poor management and everything that goes behind prossefional sports club? (For all those perfectionst out there one will note my spelling hasn't been what it should be tonight! One would hope "use" will give me slack as I have been on the strong stuff since 11 bells
I hope you don,t get criticised for your opinion. Bye the way you must have been on something good.
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| Quote: weastyred "Ok some of the fans on here will agree and disagree with the points i am going to make particular the ones i make about our chairman Mr JW.
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Anybody with half a brain cell would realise that the club needs wealthy new investors to take us to the next level.
The existing board of directors have been immensely loyal and provided all the financial backing they can afford to allow us to punch above our weight for many years now. I’m sure they would gladly step aside for the greater good of this club if the right person/people wanted to invest big money into making Salford a future force in Superleague. The problem is no investors have been forthcoming so why be so critical of the people that have continually put their hands in their pockets to make Salford stronger than the revenue it generates? I wonder how some detractors would react to endless, ignorant, criticism if you were the one’s digging as deep as they have over many years?
I find it quite amusing how some folk think they have all the answers when they are only observing from afar. I suppose it’s instinctive to want to blame somebody/something but I’d suggest looking at the wealthy Salfordians who don’t sponsor or financially support their local club or their local community before the one’s that do.
No JAW Chairman + No New Investors = No Salford RLFC
Think about it?
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| Quote: theredshed "Anybody with half a brain cell would realise that the club needs wealthy new investors to take us to the next level.
The existing board of directors have been immensely loyal and provided all the financial backing they can afford to allow us to punch above our weight for many years now. I’m sure they would gladly step aside for the greater good of this club if the right person/people wanted to invest big money into making Salford a future force in Superleague. The problem is no investors have been forthcoming so why be so critical of the people that have continually put their hands in their pockets to make Salford stronger than the revenue it generates? I wonder how some detractors would react to endless, ignorant, criticism if you were the one’s digging as deep as they have over many years?
I find it quite amusing how some folk think they have all the answers when they are only observing from afar. I suppose it’s instinctive to want to blame somebody/something but I’d suggest looking at the wealthy Salfordians who don’t sponsor or financially support their local club or their local community before the one’s that do.
Think about it?'"
It's a line of 'debate' that's as old as this forum and many are bored of pointing out the very obvious flaw in the 'replace them all' theory.
There's contibutors here that can gladly bemoan every facet of the club but have zero interest in finding/proposing solutions with any greater detail than 'better'.
Happily I'm now immune to the embarrasment I used to feel on others' behalf for these uninformed splurges. They're quite avoidable once you start recognising a few usernames.
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| Quote: programmethrower "how this is another post that makes me laugh / cringe! Really as an outsider if one read the origional post one would conlude he/she hit the nail on the head! Only thing I am of the wrong opinion is regard MP?!? He has gone from coaching the best RL game annualy in the SOO to coming to Salford, whom amonsgt their ranks have over weight, ill motivated and as real it seems talentless players! I for one can give it to him as a culture shock! Bind him time as let him see what he can do! As for the Wilky love fest from what I heard tonight he is ready to go and is actively looking to relase the club from his hands! And in his words he will be approaching people or let them approach them in the near future! As a man I think a lot of Salford fans will defend him as he has pumped a lot of money in the club and keep us afloat as people like to distinct! However as a chairman when he continually employes the wrong people time after time, surely people must ask questions? In my time supporting SCR he has only made 3 good head coach employments, Andy Greg, Karl Harrison and although unproven MP. SS under his tenure is stealing a wage and after him being peed as a fart in the club tonight it obvious he is stealing a wage! Under JW tenure we have had no decent marketing? Stratergy? decent back room appointments? Whilst people's opions on this website are "swayed" due to their apparent friendship with the afor mentioned Mr Wilkinson whislt he has invested sincerley out of his own pocket as a chairman he has failed. If we had some self styled football billionaire, would you think JW would be still employed after poor management and everything that goes behind prossefional sports club? (For all those perfectionst out there one will note my spelling hasn't been what it should be tonight! One would hope "use" will give me slack as I have been on the strong stuff since 11 bells
I was in two minds whether to respond to what was surely a drink fuelled tirade, around 12/13 hours on strong stuff according to your own words.
The reason so many people support the Chairman,Howard Clague and Ian Watson is that any person with a modicum of intelligence doesn't require a load of drink to understand what they as a small group of people have put into the club, in both time and money for no personal reward and without them the club would not be around.
With regards Steve Simms it appears that nowadays society are always looking for a scapegoat to blame everything on, Steve Simms has made some errors of judgement, haven't we all but if the Chairman is happy in what Steve Simms does, and the Chairman knows this better than anybody, then as far as I am concerned that is good enough for me.
I know people who are continually having a go at the Chairman, the directors,Steve Simms etc but these same people are first to shake their hands whenever they meet up with them.
With regards marketing, sure we can do better but how did we get 10000 plus for Sundays game?how did we get 15 match sponsors?How did we get Media City from next year?There is a lot of work that goes on behind the scenes that people don't know about and don't care about.
A football billionaire investing in the club will never happen, especially if they come on to this forum with its negativity on a regular basis, as there is no money in it, and our Chairman and the other board members would be a lot wealthier if they had never got involved with us.
This is not a Wilkinson Love Fest it is a normal long term supporter who realise's just what effort some people have put in to keep the club going and I for one am happy to be able to class John Wilkinson as a friend.
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