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| I AM A SALFORD FAN.......AND I AM A SALFORDIAN
I KNOW WHAT I WANT AND I KNOW HOW TO GET IT
I WANNA DESTROY WIGAN AND LEEDS
COZZZ I WANNNAAA BEEE SALFORD RUGBY !
terrible support from the saints crowd and yes bentham is a bent tw*t !
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| C'mon Saddened! Even for you this thread is a bit rich! There were high shots from both sides and who was the first player to be binned? Our very own James Graham. It was a pretty awful match, thanks mainly to Saints rubbish ball control and some dire officiating. But to say that Salford lacked discipline while implying we didn't is well off the mark!
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| Quote wardleyred="wardleyred"terrible support from the saints crowd '"
With the exception of two matches, we've been like that all season. The place was a morgue, except when Jammer kicked the ball out. We fired up for a bit then. But mostly we're tired of watching our side drop the ball needlessly.
Oh and I agree, Bentham is garbage.
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| Thanks Saint fan, thank you for your honest appraisal, I was not impressed by Saints tonight & thought you were there for the taking, A bit more balance from a referee we could have given you guys a closer game.
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| As Salford fans thats whats so frustrating saints were doing the same as us but nothing given against them, i have always said the small teams in the premier league dont get penalties at the stretford end, so for me until we are one of the so called big 6 we just have to put up with it. Just as a example the 2 times the linesman came on tonight the ref awarded a penalty to saints even though bentham saw nothing in either tackle, last week Kevin brown blatantly punched a salford player off the ball which the liner spotted he then went on the pitch only to be told by James child! to get off!!!! 
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| Quote choc="choc"As Salford fans thats whats so frustrating saints were doing the same as us but nothing given against them, i have always said the small teams in the premier league dont get penalties at the stretford end, so for me until we are one of the so called big 6 we just have to put up with it. Just as a example the 2 times the linesman came on tonight the ref awarded a penalty to saints even though bentham saw nothing in either tackle, last week Kevin brown blatantly punched a salford player off the ball which the liner spotted he then went on the pitch only to be told by James child! to get off!!!!
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It was actually 3 times the touch judges came on to correct Bentham. But they were right on all three and the game would have gone better if Bentham would have taken a bath and let them do it all.
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| Phil Kinsella did the commentary on Radio Manchester, and he was scathing in his appraisal of Benthams refereeing performance.
Kinsella is usually straight down the line, so I'm guessing that Bentham had a poor game.
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| 1 out of the 3 maybe, but you dont get my point we are playing under different rules each week sometimes even in the same game the inconsistency at the moment is a absolute joke. Mr Bentham missed a forward pass last week that perhaps won the challenge cup and then the liner missing the fact the ball came off the wigan player before going into touch i mean these are basic basic errors,this particular referee should be relegated as he is nowhere near super league standard. I really feel for the reds players and coach tonight they gave it there all and i honestly believe saints were there for the taking and with a referee that was consistent you just never know.
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| Quote Saddened!="Saddened!"It was actually 3 times the touch judges came on to correct Bentham. But they were right on all three and the game would have gone better if Bentham would have taken a bath and let them do it all.'"
Shame then they didn't bother to come on correct the Makinson try that was in touch and the two knock-ons that led up to Meli's.
a 9-2 penalty count in the first half .. when both sides were equally undisciplined.
Phil Bentham, legend. making James Child look professional.  the Wembley appearance has gone to his head , next thing you know he'll be toppling grannies at taxi ranks ?,,
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| Our lack of discipline has been awful all season. Even so, I thought we were harshly treated last night. It's not the first time we've been subjected to one sided penalty counts and dodgy decisions BUT we don't help ourselves by some of the silly mistakes we make.
Well done to the Team for hanging in there and keeping the score to a reasonable margin given the circumstances. I'm sure we can finish on a high next week.
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| The point is tho Rooted Red that saints were making silly errors too but they were constantly allowed second and third chances, being handed possession by the ref. In the first 10 minutes we looked the better side scoring an excellent try and having a couple of half chances. It was at that point that Mr Bentham decided we had played enough rugby and he was going to be the influential factor in the game.
As for our indiscipline, we are no worse than any other super league team but get punished more. That is not our fault. It is incredibly difficult as a player to be perfect when the rules are clearly flouted by others. It is natural for players to do what others get away with. You work to the refs tolerance, problem is when it comes to our players they have zero tolerance and apply the rules to the letter while other players enjoy leniency.
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