Having only just seen this post, I can honestly say I am suprised it has taken so long. the situation is becoming simmillar to the Gary Jack years,where critisism was just brushed away as "your wrong" if you didn,t fall in line with the licking. In fairness Ithink any player needs two seasons to settle,so lets judge next year,but remember when Jack came to Salford he was without doubt the best fullback in the world,but was a disaster for us,but no critisism was allowed,let us judge on what we see,and no be led by the nose.For me I expected a lot more but am willing to give him more time,but not to much.

I agree. Seem to remember Patten being pretty solid under kicks earlier in the season. A couple of cocks ups at Wire and at home vs Quins and he is suddenly an awful defensive player? Not for me.

Not quite true though Karl he's made massive errors all season long and could have prevented many of the try's we have conceded, just go through all our games this year starting with Crusaders at MM and count how many 4 pointers should have been prevented by him.

Right this sounds like I've got it in for and I've not honest! He's miles better than fitzy and IMO the second best attacking fullback in the league behind Hodgson, but as I've already said I just don't think his defensive weaknesses can be brushed to one side just because of his attacking ability.

Anyway I'm leaving it at that now. See you all Sunday or the same 50 of us that always make the trip to Hull KR anyway!