Firstly is Patten a massive improvement on Fitzy ? YES 1000% !

I starting following the Reds the season after the playoff year and TBH how he stayed the Number one fullback through right till the end of last season I'll never know . Nothing in attack and laughable when bringing the ball back !

Patten is a presence and It's great to see him lining up EVERY SINGLE WEEK ! . He has had shaky moments and from what I have seen always demands the highest standards from himself ! Defensively if he is the last line then the damage to the line has already been done and the likelihood is he will be outnumbered anyway !

Offensively he is fast , strong , wise and obv links up with DJ really well (If a little obvious at times !)

I for one do not Doubt him and I think we will be hard pushed to find a better replacement when his contract is up !

I agree. Seem to remember Patten being pretty solid under kicks earlier in the season. A couple of cocks ups at Wire and at home vs Quins and he is suddenly an awful defensive player? Not for me.

Not quite true though Karl he's made massive errors all season long and could have prevented many of the try's we have conceded, just go through all our games this year starting with Crusaders at MM and count how many 4 pointers should have been prevented by him.

Right this sounds like I've got it in for and I've not honest! He's miles better than fitzy and IMO the second best attacking fullback in the league behind Hodgson, but as I've already said I just don't think his defensive weaknesses can be brushed to one side just because of his attacking ability.

Anyway I'm leaving it at that now. See you all Sunday or the same 50 of us that always make the trip to Hull KR anyway!