Totally agree with original red devil. I was at Lloret with this same bunch of lads and the reports of what went on were very much over the top. They were a bit loud but no more so than certain other people have been known to be. The hotel management in my opinion went way over the top. On the coaches to and from Lloret to the game they treated the coach with respect and cleared up all their empties before leaving the coach.

I seem to remember the first time in Perpignan a certain group of Salford fans being told to moderate their behaviour to. Glass houses and stones come to mind.

I spent biggest part of the weekend with this group and also had my pregnant daughter with me. All in all I had one of the best times ever and never once felt their was going to be any trouble or any threat to me or my daughter. Indeed when at the robin hood if they were asked to quieten down or moderate their behaviour they did without any problems. Yes they may have had a beer or two too many but then again so did I does that make me an idiot as well?

Some people need to remember what it is like to be young and learn how to enjoy themselves and let their hair down once in a while instead of looking down their noses and thinking they are superior, you never know you may actually enjoy it. But then again maybe not as some people have never been young.

Whilst I agree with the principle of the second sentence, I feel that the first perhaps represents a kind of 'false status consciousness' within some sectors of the support. The old "that lot think they're better than me/us" attitude. I can't speak for others but in my opinion, for what it's worth, I don't think I'm better than anyone else; I just don't share many aspects of the same culture. Not better, but different. However, if we could focus on the similarities we'd perhaps get somewhere. But, this requires the aforementioned to contribute rather than thinking others look down their noses at them. And, don't expect others to simply join in with behaviour they don't wish to. I.e., singing pointless songs (in my opinion) at inappropriate times. (IMO)

I don't expect anyone to join in songs/chants they don't wish to because i will admit myself half the time i dont join in with them because at times they make me cringe but at the same time if the same group of people start a Salford song of there's a select few that wont join in which in my opinion is childish. The thing is there is obviously a divided in our support and has been for a few seasons i want to go to the games to enjoy the experience not listen to fellow reds fans argue with each other, my original post wasn't to try and have a pop at people but i feel the group who start these songs of get a lot on unwarranted stick and whilst the songs may not be the best at times i don't feel there's any need to take it any further and let it bother people to much and come on here and post about them. We don't have to all see eye to eye and be best pals with each other, i just want all this bitching to stop and start to enjoy the last season at the famous old ground to give it the send of it deserves.

Well said Darren thats what we all should be wanting this season.

oohh aahh lloret der mar

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