That gives 3 to 4 weeks to complete all of the piling, complete all of the pile caps, install all underground drainage and service ducts then pour the foundations. Your correct installing precast concrete to form the stadium structure is the easy bit and will move quite quickly but there is a lot of work to do before that starts and it won't happen at the end of January.

Sorry bit of a misunderstanding due to the way ive worded things by using the word "foundations", to try to make things understandable to as many people as possible.

Tecnnically its the piling that is due to start at the end of January.

so how do we go about building a stadium with built-in 'atmosphere' ? atmosphere is surely what WE make it ?

try the Gilbert Brutus when the french fans let loose - that's atmosphere ! in their case it's passion (usually intimidating passion) talking - maybe you are confusing 'atmosphere' with 'passion' ?

Before we get into some daft interpretation of language debate, please answer my question as to why the four teams I stated earlier, appear to have less of an atmosphere at their new stadiums as opposed to their old stadiums? If you don't know, just say so and stop deflecting the question.

stadium design, these all have high stand roofs which allow the noise to drift away upwards, a typical example is OT, the visiting fans have a low roof which means that their noise can be heard, the higher the roof at the lower the noise that gets conscentrated towards the pitch.

I haven't the foggiest why the atmosphere is different at these new stadia - you tell me ? I haven't been to any of the grounds you quoted since the 80s so I have no idea how they are nowadays but I'll take your word for it if say there is a big difference.
All i'm saying is that a new stadium doesn't have to mean there is no atmosphere - I repeat Stade Toulousain on a RU matchday is buzzing - Gilbert Brutus has an atmosphere because the fans make it happen
So,I ask you again,what do we do to change the atmosphere at the new grounds ? Isn't the whole idea to improve conditions for players & fans alike ?
BTW,i've been to Knowsley Road in the good old days of decrepit stands and smelly bogs etc when the Saints have had an off day and the lack of atmosphere has been like a graveyard
I think you have romantic ideas of the good old days - face the fact that the game is changing so you either change with it or wallow in the past,smelly bogs 'n all & inadequate facilities and all that

also aided by the lack of prawn sandwich in their mouth



lots of reasons why new stadiums have less atmosphere. high roof, fans more dispersed in seats and not congregated, etc. - but its also about attarcting new people and they might not be so vocal.

In RL in particular, it's about attracting more families who are invariably quieter that large groups of blokes, who had previously been our almost exclusive target audience.

Any updates at all. ???

They were busy on site again this morning when I went passed, lots of heavy machinery and the like...

Anyone know if the pilling been done yet and when the foundations are likely to be done?

Sure I heard there was plans for a webcam??