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Quote: LincolnDEVILSFan "I never mentioned anything on how Wakefield was run as a club, but I did mean the same Wakefield that reached the play offs last season, the same Wakefield that lost TRONC, their best forward, and Brough, their best half back, and the same Wakefield that has stuck 30 plus points on us at their place for the past two seasons.

I agree you can't give any player vision or bottle. On the other hand you can make them stronger, to a certain degree you can make them quicker and you can improve their basic skills. Please don't quote dunneman back at me, but a large part of the reason we did well in 2006 was down to good basic skills and playing at tempo. One of the best Salford games I've ever seen was our home game against Saints that year, because we did the basics right and played with tempo. I know we lost but each half felt like it was 10 minutes long.

This is what John Kear can give a team. He will never take a club all the way to the top, but he will, however, turn a clubs fortunes round and is a very good short term fix. This is, also, what McRae doesn't give Salford. He hasn't proven himself worthy.'"

I'm not going to knock John Kear on here,plenty on the Wakey board do that.What I will say is that since they lost their two best players they have gone downhill.Your argument is that he should have been able to improve,strengthen and make quicker the players he had left instead of the poor team that turned out at the Willows.I maintain that you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
Going back over old ground now but IMO our good season in 2006 was based on a good defence and good players. Yes I will quote Dunneman at you because IMO he was very underrated.He had a good defence and led us round the pitch,something we have lacked until Holdsworth started doing it just before his injury.
We also had Malc,probably at the peak of his career,Coley,Robinson,Rutgerson,Hodgson,Moule,Finnigan and Fitzy,who was a good fullback before his bad injury.McRae hasn't had players of this calibre to coach in his time at Salford.
I am not convinced McRae is the answer I just think he should be given a chance with the better players we have signed.

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Quote: king of the shed "It's a totally different situation now in the full time game, I remember Tommy spending time on the Shed roof fixing it whilst training was actually going on!

What he hadn't done was travelled 12,000 miles to be an assistant, Millward has already coached a double Super League, double Challenge Cup and World Club Challenge winning team and also been voted Coach of the Year. Not to mention being assistant coach at two teams in the best league in the world!'"

kots, are you suggesting that Millward wouldn't be satisfied with a 2nd in command role because of his past successes ? ..... and that this could lead to conflict & unrest ?
If so, and your worst fears become reality, I agree, it would be bad news in a season involving license applications and the clubs desire to leave The Willows on a high.
However, if he is given the job, would you agree that he may just be happy to have a foot in the door, and be willing to bide his time until the head coach job became available.
I'm not saying that this is what I can see happening, but it's a possibility.

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Quote: theredshed "Even harder than the England Football Manager's Job because Salford fans are even less realistic. (Think this is what Mr Mcrae was getting at during an interview for the BBC Sport website)
icon_biggrin.gif Well imo Salford is a bit of a pandoras box of issues which you are battling against
We are a potential big club trapped in the mentality of small clubs body, our fan base has took such a hammering over the years with promises, then failure more promises and more failure its hard for us fans and the club to build a “winning mentality” and increase attendances. The players and coaches Im sure sometimes forget they are employed by one of the top 14 clubs in the country because
1) our profile in the city and the area always being put down as “sorry salford” ect
2) where we currently play tucked away in weaste they can mooch around manchester just like a face in the crowd and not be recognised like they would if they played for wigan for example

The club don’t have a lot of money so spend so sometimes it’s a “make do attitude” or just “do enough” when it comes to websites, shops rather than pushing back the barriers and seeing when we go on what we have.


Its not all bad tho…

It seems the Harrison years we have been able to improve our youth system down to the rugby genius being involved and off the field with the new stadium right next to the motorway with nowhere to hide around the corner after 10 long years people are beginning to take notice and want to be part of it, the new internet shop will hopefully soon be backed up with a new official website that runs a bit quicker add the fact the facebook and twitter accounts are going great guns with news exclusives we are targeting new audiences all the time
Our community projects are doing very well in the community spreading the word and touching new potential fans something that until recently haven’t really heard of .

On and Off the field we are on the cusp of something, the leap from small club also ran to main competitor big club is a large one and the club need to be prepared both on and off the field for the potential avalanche of new support when “old fans and new fans” wake up to where salford city reds are and where they are going.
This will bring expectation and excitement which everyone within the club will need to embrace and not let sufficate, its improved 100% on the late 90s early 00 both on and off and they should be applauded for that but we need to go up another level both on and off the field if we are to compete at super league level.

You’d hope Millward/Mcrae can use their experience coaching higher profile clubs to turn the juggernaut which is salford city reds around and make them a force on the field which makes the job of the field a little bit easier, all it needs is a cup final or a season of winning more than you lose and this club will take off in its new stadium icon_evil.gif icon_biggrin.gifANCE: icon_razz.gifIMP:.

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Its not all bad tho…

It seems the Harrison years we have been able to improve our youth system down to the rugby genius being involved and off the field with the new stadium right next to the motorway with nowhere to hide around the corner after 10 long years people are beginning to take notice and want to be part of it, the new internet shop will hopefully soon be backed up with a new official website that runs a bit quicker add the fact the facebook and twitter accounts are going great guns with news exclusives we are targeting new audiences all the time
Our community projects are doing very well in the community spreading the word and touching new potential fans something that until recently haven’t really heard of .

On and Off the field we are on the cusp of something, the leap from small club also ran to main competitor big club is a large one and the club need to be prepared both on and off the field for the potential avalanche of new support when “old fans and new fans” wake up to where salford city reds are and where they are going.
This will bring expectation and excitement which everyone within the club will need to embrace and not let sufficate, its improved 100% on the late 90s early 00 both on and off and they should be applauded for that but we need to go up another level both on and off the field if we are to compete at super league level.

You’d hope Millward/Mcrae can use their experience coaching higher profile clubs to turn the juggernaut which is salford city reds around and make them a force on the field which makes the job of the field a little bit easier, all it needs is a cup final or a season of winning more than you lose and this club will take off in its new stadium
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Quote: The optimist "

Its not all bad tho…
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Good grief - the optimist is being optimistic - whatever next?

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