Kenny Gill may have not played to a game plan but I think you'll find he played alongside slightly better players than we have at the moment.
You talk about 5 drives and a kick,exactly the tactics that beat Saints,its our inconsistency thats our downfall.If we have a good kick/chase (as against Saints),dont give away penalties,and don't knock on,then we are competitive. In too many games this season we've made too many basic errors and struggled because of this.
As for McCrae,any coach that can get wins at Hull.Leeds,Huddersfield and at home to Saints must be doing something right.

i think that is the problem in a nut shell, the players turn over too much ball and get punished against other teams, personally i feel if the players were able to remain as switched on as they were against saints (because they were making a point against one of the bigger sides in the comp) against everyone else i think we would be feared.

Unfortunatley its take a lot phycially and mentally to perform at that level week in week out, that is why we came crashing back down to earth at celtic.
I hope after a weeks rest (that what we'll call celtic mentally) i think the players should be able to produce a simular performance which beat saints

the slug should go , after saturdays call ,putting steff in the centres he does deserve the bullet ,and bring in hunte and leo murphy ,the dream team , at least youth would be given a chance , and they both care about the club , more than the slug and father ted whos only concern is going on his two weeek trip to oz to bring over tyoverated crap ,stop this now3 mr wilky they both are havin a laff at our expense ,,get rid of these two losers

Why not just play the academy side? How many youngsters do you want in the team? McCrae has played Myler,Ratchford,Sidlow,Jewitt,Turner,Adamson and McGilvray this season.I dont think you could say he hasn't given youth a chance.
Crap Aussies? Smith-disappointing
Cashmere-most yards made,most offloads
Swain-Tackling machine
Henry-improving after injury-hit start.
I agree after the Saints game it was strange to put Steff in the centre,but perhaps McCrae is experimenting to see what works,lets face it,if Steff did turn into a decent centre it would solve a lot of problems.

KEEP THE FAITH

But Stef is not a centre,Winger or whichever position McRae decides to put him into next.
You do not see him shifting Smith around do you ?
Stef is a stand off and should be kept there.

Having read your post Smithy68, I am not sure what you are saying.

McCrae not playing young players? Steff as prop (sorry -age showing: front-row) would be better? Insulting people makes your case stronger?

Err, no.

what i am saying is playing steff out of position wrong
the coach made the choice ,he should of had the balls to keep myler out of the team , the team the week before beat a good st helens team , the fans that went to celtic were let down badly , steve simms is every year going on a holiday to oz at the expense of the club to look for goood players ,

my run down on this years lot

cashmere , looks like a giant runs like a fairy
henry came with a good rep , done not a lot
swainn best of a bad bunch
smith any player that turns his back on the ball during a game deserves everything he gets from the fans , he really is drawing money under false pretenses , totall crap , and whoever made the choice to sign him should go to MR SIMMS
i hope hill billy red this clears it up as for insulting people i pay my money i am intitled to my opinion ,if i feel the club would do better to get rid of the slug and farther ted i will say so , whjat i cannot understand is how mr wilky is a very clever man yet year after year simms brings the same old crap over to play for us




trying to keep the faith

Has made more yards and offloads than any other salford player this season which is what you want in your front row, true he hasnt skittled a defence but with our round the ruck play and support play sometimes so pedestrian i cant reaily see see the point in sending in a Kamakazi runner just to get swallowed up by the defence and waist a tackle.

Korki was a perfect example of this, when other teams figured out he was our go to man to get big yards they buit a wall of big forwards infrount of him and he just kept running into it, without a bit of cunning or guile around the ruck it becomes worthless, put cashmere and korki in the same team with better service around the ruck then we'd be in business imo.

id rather get more 2nd phase ball from an offload to give the likes of smith and henry a broken defence to cause chaos in .

In the off season i hope we bring in another fairy like cashmere replacing stapo or big phil or both, id like a forward who could skittle a defence to come of the bench who is young and willing to progress here at the willows as well would certainly give other teams more to think about when defending against us.

Smithy68,do you actually watch any of the games?as your assessment of the situation with some of the players is way off the mark, are you"John from Salford" in disguise?

You are entitled to your opinion as we all are but your views and comments on some matters appear to be completely over the top.

If you say that all this years overseas players are not up to it you are in a minority as previous posters have pointed out and Jeremy Smith has said that he can play better than he has up to date.

With regards Steve Simms, he is entitled to a holiday, he has family in Australia and he is quite entitled to visit them and he pays for the holiday himself according to the club, take that as the truth.

To continually keep singling individuals out when performances such as last Saturdays was down to a very poor team effort is unfair and according to the players at the Forever Reds meeting last Monday they accepted that as a team.

With regards to changing a winning team and moving the man of the match to another position was in my opinion a mistake and the coach should take full responsibility for the move.