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There was only 56,854 in attendance at the Spurs Vs Man City game at Wembley last night.

Premier League football is dying !!!!

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: shinymcshine "There was only 56,854 in attendance at the Spurs Vs Man City game at Wembley last night.

Premier League football is dying !!!!'"

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Just to bump this back up.

I take it that most of us are familiar with the global phenomenon that is fortnite?

Well the NFL definitely are

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment ... iler-price
Just to bump this back up.

I take it that most of us are familiar with the global phenomenon that is fortnite?

Well the NFL definitely are

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment ... iler-price


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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



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Quote: Call Me God "Had to google it....... Like all global trends its cool until the next one and the NFL get more fans at one game than we do at the top 13 ties combined and more viewers for one game than we do all season.....
We can't even fill Hull for an England game'"


https://www-polygon-com.cdn.ampproject. ... ayers-2018

74 million players a month, 125 million in july. Big money tournament, celebrities who play it, primark and other supermarkets stocking various clothing lines, its more than just a fad. And the NFL have jumped on the bandwagon to get more exposure.

If the rfl had a fat sack of money available, they'd get a load of exposure if they tried to get involved with this, say just before the start of the new super league season. It'll never happen but this is the sort of thing they need to be trying to do, changing their marketing, thinking outside the box.

Try and make rugby league cool for the kids. They're the customers of the future.
Quote: Call Me God "Had to google it....... Like all global trends its cool until the next one and the NFL get more fans at one game than we do at the top 13 ties combined and more viewers for one game than we do all season.....
We can't even fill Hull for an England game'"


https://www-polygon-com.cdn.ampproject. ... ayers-2018

74 million players a month, 125 million in july. Big money tournament, celebrities who play it, primark and other supermarkets stocking various clothing lines, its more than just a fad. And the NFL have jumped on the bandwagon to get more exposure.

If the rfl had a fat sack of money available, they'd get a load of exposure if they tried to get involved with this, say just before the start of the new super league season. It'll never happen but this is the sort of thing they need to be trying to do, changing their marketing, thinking outside the box.

Try and make rugby league cool for the kids. They're the customers of the future.


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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "74 million players a month, 125 million in july. Big money tournament, celebrities who play it, primark and other supermarkets stocking various clothing lines, its more than just a fad.'"

Tamagotchi anyone? 80 million units sold.........
or how about one of these.......

.....killed Vinyl (or at least buried it for 30 years)
It's a fad and will be replaced by another fad......marketing on its popularity is great, but it's a short term high expense method for a qUick return......the NFL existed when the walkman came and went and it will be the same with this

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Please keep RL away from anything associated with flossing, dabbing or any other weird affliction this game encourages. Children spend far too much time in front of screens, not something I’d like to see rl encourage.

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The Leigh and Wakefield fans mentality...... Say something negative about any other team than theirs - Its an opinion Say something negative about Leigh and Wakefield - TROLL:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_77270.jpg



Quote: Seth "Please keep RL away from anything associated with flossing, dabbing or any other weird affliction this game encourages. Children spend far too much time in front of screens, not something I’d like to see rl encourage.'"


Well said. Let’s encourage them to gamble instead by having Ladbrokes sponsor the challenge cup

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Or how about neither is ok. I didn’t realise the choice was either or.

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Quote: Ruune Rebellion "Well said. Let’s encourage them to gamble instead by having Ladbrokes sponsor the challenge cup'"

As well as the Ladbrokes Challenge Cup it’s also the Betfred Super League. I do agree this is adding to the Nations problem gamblers, but it needs to be restricted by the government, that’s their job to create laws, not through the RFL turning down sponsorship.

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Whatever you think of video games, the reality is that it's a large part of the lives of a lot of young people.

Major football and NFL clubs aren't investing heavily in e-sports (and top e-sports players aren't earning more than some Premier League footballers) because its a fad. They're doing it because it's a way to connect with a notoriously hard to reach audience.

You can complain about "kids on their PlayStations / phones all day long" but if that is the way the wind is blowing, it's not good news for the courier of this sport if it doesn't / can't respond to that trend.

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At the risk of taking the thread in a different direction, has the emergence of smart phones and next gen consoles lead to the dwindling participation at grass roots level of not only rugby league but sunday league football?

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Quote: Ruune Rebellion "At the risk of taking the thread in a different direction, has the emergence of smart phones and next gen consoles lead to the dwindling participation at grass roots level of not only rugby league but sunday league football?'"


Not convinced. These things exist all over the world.

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Quote: Ruune Rebellion "At the risk of taking the thread in a different direction, has the emergence of smart phones and next gen consoles lead to the dwindling participation at grass roots level of not only rugby league but sunday league football?'"


Did the emergence of Space Invaders, ZX81's, Atari Consoles and Nintendo Gameboys lead to the same?

This is the world we live in - the poster who suggests embracing and exploiting technology for the benefit of the game is quite correct; trying to resist it is no more than tilting at windmills, and reinforces the perception of RL as an anachronistic dinosaur pastime from a bygone era.

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Quote: bramleyrhino "Whatever you think of video games, the reality is that it's a large part of the lives of a lot of young people.

Major football and NFL clubs aren't investing heavily in e-sports (and top e-sports players aren't earning more than some Premier League footballers) because its a fad. They're doing it because it's a way to connect with a notoriously hard to reach audience.

You can complain about "kids on their PlayStations / phones all day long" but if that is the way the wind is blowing, it's not good news for the courier of this sport if it doesn't / can't respond to that trend.'"


Thank you, thats the point I was making, and sort of connecting back to my point on the first page, and the grass roots laid by john madden football on the mega drive

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