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| Quote: Dave Lister "So basically it still all boils down to money though. I don't dispute any of your points btw. I wouldn't particularly blame them either but put it this way - if England RL was played infront of 70k at Wembley on a regular basis, yet the players earned the same money, would they move? No doubt about it. Even if RL took off in a big way, it'll take a long time to get near the money backing International RU.'"
Yeah I see what your saying but international RU has money because it is well supported, if they received the same level of support as international RL sides then the lure wouldn't be as great IMO. I think the money is an added bonus though, I mean if your talking minimal differences such as £1-5000 more a year and your RL contract is already half decent most would stay where they are happy. However when your talking maybe an extra £50000 on your salary a year, your not really doing your family any justice if you was to turn that down. We all know where the problem is though, our salary cap is not big enough to keep our top players in this code but its too big for most clubs to be able to fulfill.
Something needs to be changed to keep these players in our game.
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| Quote: Leyther_Matt "Are you having a laugh?! It took me no more than 2 hours to travel by train from Leigh to Dewsbury earlier in the season and that included a beer stop in Manchester and Huddersfield!'"
Train from Leeds to Atherton is approx 2 hours. Train from Leeds to London is 2 hours 25. I've never done Atherton to Leigh but can't be much in it as it doesn't take long to get from Kings X to Wembley at all.
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| Quote: pmarrow "Yeah I see what your saying but international RU has money because it is well supported, if they received the same level of support as international RL sides then the lure wouldn't be as great IMO. I think the money is an added bonus though, I mean if your talking minimal differences such as £1-5000 more a year and your RL contract is already half decent most would stay where they are happy. However when your talking maybe an extra £50000 on your salary a year, your not really doing your family any justice if you was to turn that down. We all know where the problem is though, our salary cap is not big enough to keep our top players in this code but its too big for most clubs to be able to fulfill.
Something needs to be changed to keep these players in our game.'"
Can't disagree with any of that.
I just don't buy into this "lure" of playing infront of big crowds rather than small ones, that's all.
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| Quote: Bartholemew Smythe "You `ve never been to the LSV if you spout that have you.
The LSV has greater free parking than the HJ, PieDome and more than most.'"
What are you on about I have been today and I w not impressed, who are you do you run LSV? Take my views mate the place is ****. That's my opinion live with it.
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| People from Leigh must be the most defensive in the country.
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| On a positive note.
Games against Wales since SL began.
2009 - Att : 3249 (Brigend)
2008 - Att : 11263 (Doncaster)
2003 - Att : 2124 (Leeds)
2001 - Att : 6373 (Wrexham)
1998 - Att : 5154 (Widnes)
1996 - Att : 5425 (Cardiff)
A step in the right direction, I can't have being the only one who was expecting this to be a very poorly attended game. So to get over 10,000 for it is very encouraging. The four nations as a whole has not had a single tournament where every game has gone over 10,000. If the Welsh can attract a decent crowd against the Aussies then it shows how the international scene even if it is baby steps is improving. If only Crusaders were run better then I could have seen the welsh at least giving England a game in a few years time, I do fear now though that the majority of the welsh players will now go back down to a part time level.
France have also got some superb attendances over the past couple of years, I really think we should be more optimistic as opposed to pessimistic. Just think a few years ago the welsh and french were laying a tournament against our second team, so it overall it shows how far them countries have come in RL even if they are still getting tonked on the scoreboard.
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| Quote: Dave Lister "People from Leigh must be the most defensive in the country.'"
37 years under wigans foot doesn't help.
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| On another note why do they charge more for international games along the side e.g. 25 by 20 yards or 35 in the middle. There is no logic in this. This never happens in domestic games in most sports so why should it be any different. It gains nothing.
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| Quote: Dave Lister "People from Leigh must be the most defensive in the country.'"
Pick them for next week then.
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| Quote: Eaton "On another note why do they charge more for international games along the side e.g. 25 by 20 yards or 35 in the middle. There is no logic in this. This never happens in domestic games in most sports so why should it be any different. It gains nothing.'"
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| Quote: Dave Lister "Can't disagree with any of that.
I just don't buy into this "lure" of playing infront of big crowds rather than small ones, that's all.'"
Its a novelty that would wear off quickly particularly if the crowd gets on your back. However there is no better feeling then scoring a match winner in front of 70,000, I mean when you are younger you don't want to make it for the money you do it for the challenge cup finals.
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| This ia a wind up, fookin Maidstone what a shieitole, used to have a business in Snodland all folk would go there for is to shaag Eastern Euros on the cheap.
Go luvvyersell agressively winker.
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| Quote: pmarrow "Its a novelty that would wear off quickly particularly if the crowd gets on your back. However there is no better feeling then scoring a match winner in front of 70,000, I mean when you are younger you don't want to make it for the money you do it for the challenge cup finals.'"
My hatred towards Rugby Union means I find it difficult to imagine celebrating a try at Twickenham with the masses but I know what you are getting at.
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| Quote: maurice "This ia a wind up, fookin Maidstone what a shieitole, used to have a business in Snodland all folk would go there for is to shaag Eastern Euros on the cheap.
Go luvvyersell agressively winker.'"
What happened to your business?
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| Quote: Eaton "On another note why do they charge more for international games along the side e.g. 25 by 20 yards or 35 in the middle. There is no logic in this. This never happens in domestic games in most sports so why should it be any different. It gains nothing.'"
The better the view the higher the price i dont see the problem with that.
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