Apparently Leigh and Salford are looking at running a joint academy similar to the one in Hull

Ultimately what is the optimum number of academies required within the sport that provides the players we need without impacting upon the amateur game ?

Count them with me: Hull KR. Salford.

But yes, talking about volcanic eruptions and asteroids is a great distraction from your nonsense.

Yes, we should all thank the kind thoughtful souls at Leigh and Salford for not running an academy, not paying out money to young players with potential, not giving them top quality coaching in top quality facilities. It really is an altruistic act to help the amateur game and the fact it saves them money they can pay out to antipodeans and players other clubs have invested in is purely a coincidence.

Here he goes, lose the argument, play dumb...

I genuinely don't know , so is it continuing or not ? , and as a joint venture or just FC ?

either way, they arent running their own.

It is widely suggested that outside the top 4/5 academies there isn't the numbers of quality junior players to genuinely produce SL players , so you end up with clubs ' padding out ' their squads just to put a team on the pitch with players nowhere near good enough

Much as we have seen the RFL reduce the number of teams in SL partly to increase the intensity , too many academies results in a drop in standards

It is a chicken and egg situation , unable to recruit enough quality juniors ( plenty of arguments as to why that is the case ) to produce SL players results in clubs getting poor results when audited , not surprising if then clubs dont see it as a worthwhile investment

Or of course clubs could put time and effort into increasing participation and quality in the amateur game in their area. Then there'd be enough players of the requisite standard.

But I suppose that would require long term planning and investment.

HKR ?

Everybody already knew they werent running one of their OWN months ago , nothing to do with being relegated

But you know ALL this

Goodness knows why you need to go of on these point scoring exercises ? , you must be really bored

Maybe those clubs do put time and effort in , and I'me sure most if not all could and should do more

But even if they do that , lets say in Leigh's position , and we still see the best signing up at Wigan,Saints and Wire , leaving us trying to make silk purses out of sows ears and constantly being criticised for not producing numbers , do we carry on ?

And this can impact on local amateurs , sometimes stripping teams with low numbers already of their best talent can result in teams folding

Ultimately we need more kids playing , that is an issue , personally as I've suggested before the area between Coventry down to Skolars is where we should be seeing investment helping junior clubs set up and grow , a second ' heartland ' in the making IMO

Its not a chicken and egg situation, its an excuse for failure situation. If a club is 'padding out' their squad its because they have already failed. Failed to increase participation, failed to scout, failed to attract youngsters, failed to improve the ones they have, failed to invest in quality coaching and facilities.

Your argument is based upon the premise that if we reduce the amount of players receiving the quality coaching, in quality facilities, then we will increase the amount of quality players coming through. Its a nonsensical argument and one nobody with half a brain would make. One even you wouldnt make if you werent trying to deflect the blame for your club ignoring youth development and long term planning in favour of spending money on the first team squad and relying on the efforts of others

Just as i predicted. Lose the argument, play dumb.

You be better.

Yes, its definitely down to someone else, somewhere else, because nothing more could possibly be expected of Leigh.

I haven't lost anything , I asked a simple question , but it seems you either are too thick to answer it , which personally I don't believe , or you don't want to answer it because it disproves what you originally stated

But seriously who cares , not me , or anybody else it would seem ?

So knock yourself out