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| Surely, the return of promotion and relegation will see crowd numbers surge 
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| Quote wrencat1873="wrencat1873"Surely, the return of promotion and relegation will see crowd numbers surge
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Free entry, naked playboy cheerleaders and handicaps wouldnt see attendances surge
Free beer on top of those above might but unlikely to happen
Hard work and investement coupled with long term planning will work, however it also requires a different mind set to what we generally see, far too much importance is placed upon ' on ' field performance ,that is the responsability of the coaching staff ,the management of clubs should be more focused on running their ' businesses'
Unfortunatly that is boring and not the reason they got involved in the 1 st place ,but many then dont want to employ the right people to do that job, or to provide them with the budgets needed, quite often the term ' successful businessman ' is used to describe the people charged with running clubs, but just because a person has been fortunate or lucky in the timing of their personal business doesnt mean they have a clue how to run a loss making black hole like a sports club
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| How are you supposed to invest long term with the hardwork and skill necessary, how are you supposed to plan long term, and execute that plan and prioritise the investment in 'the business' leaving the 'on field' performance to the coaching staff (i agree with this principle by the way) when your long term plan and investment can be massively undermined, if not devastated by the loss of income and exposure guaranteed by relegation?'
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"How are you supposed to invest long term with the hardwork and skill necessary, how are you supposed to plan long term, and execute that plan and prioritise the investment in 'the business' leaving the 'on field' performance to the coaching staff (i agree with this principle by the way) when your long term plan and investment can be massively undermined, if not devastated by the loss of income and exposure guaranteed by relegation?''"
You mean like real businesses in the real world?
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"You mean like real businesses in the real world?'"
Outside of sport I know of no industry with anything comparable to relegation.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"How are you supposed to invest long term with the hardwork and skill necessary, how are you supposed to plan long term, and execute that plan and prioritise the investment in 'the business' leaving the 'on field' performance to the coaching staff (i agree with this principle by the way) when your long term plan and investment can be massively undermined, if not devastated by the loss of income and exposure guaranteed by relegation?''"
But if no one wants to watch the product because the games are meaningless, you can't run a business.
Yes crowds haven't surged yet, we still have the horrible ridculous 8 team play-off system. Also not really relegation threat as Bradford and London are down.
Personally don't think the new structure will work as the same teams will be split year after year.
The RFL should have swallowed their pride and gone back to structure that worked before licensing. But no the RFL had to be innovative and we have a structure I really don't think will work.
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| The structure prior to licensing didnt work, it was proven not to work. The system before licensing was a failure and that is accepted by all within the game.
You can at least give a little credit to the the rfl for trying something that is unlikely to work rather than going back to something we know didnt work.
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Outside of sport I know of no industry with anything comparable to relegation.'"
So poorly performing businesses dont find their incomes reducing?
You're losing it again
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| Quote Starbug="Starbug"So poorly performing businesses dont find their incomes reducing?
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bloody hell that is an awful argument.
Surely even you cant think that has scored you the 'point' you are looking for
three posts it has taken you from telling us that clubs should be run ans businesses and owners should focus on the business side of things and leave the coaching to the coaches before then arguing any club which is relegated is poorly run and like any poorly run business will see a reduction in income 
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"The structure prior to licensing didnt work, it was proven not to work. The system before licensing was a failure and that is accepted by all within the game.
You can at least give a little credit to the the rfl for trying something that is unlikely to work rather than going back to something we know didnt work.'"
I give the RFL no credit for this idea as I stand by my contention that this new setup is simply the illusion of P&R rather than actual P&R. Unless the salary cap is adjusted so that it's the same for both SL and Championship clubs there's little to no chance of a Championship club breaking into the SL monopoly.
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"I give the RFL no credit for this idea as I stand by my contention that this new setup is simply the illusion of P&R rather than actual P&R. Unless the salary cap is adjusted so that it's the same for both SL and Championship clubs there's little to no chance of a Championship club breaking into the SL monopoly.'"
So you want Bradford to go bust in the Championship as well as SL?
Marvelous 
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| Quote SmokeyTA="SmokeyTA"Outside of sport I know of no industry with anything comparable to relegation.'"
Every 'real world' company is exposed, state run aren't
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