Yes if we ignore the two who have stopped running an academy and pretend the one who hasnt for years, is running one, its not a problem at all.

Im sure we can expect the same excuses from you for Leigh as we saw from you for Hull KR about the time it takes to set up an academy, the time it takes to bring players through, that they need to prioritise the first team for now, and why a decade later they still havent brought through anyone of note.

Hey perhaps in that time Leigh will be relegated again and Hull KR promoted and the whole cycle of excuses can start again

Two haven't stopped , one has , and as I just pointed out the one who hasn't for the last couple of years ' intends to do so in 2018

And yes they might be , or they might not , or an asteroid might destroy the planet , or a huge Volcanic eruption

Who knows eh ?

Apparently Leigh and Salford are looking at running a joint academy similar to the one in Hull

Ultimately what is the optimum number of academies required within the sport that provides the players we need without impacting upon the amateur game ?

Count them with me: Hull KR. Salford.

But yes, talking about volcanic eruptions and asteroids is a great distraction from your nonsense.

Yes, we should all thank the kind thoughtful souls at Leigh and Salford for not running an academy, not paying out money to young players with potential, not giving them top quality coaching in top quality facilities. It really is an altruistic act to help the amateur game and the fact it saves them money they can pay out to antipodeans and players other clubs have invested in is purely a coincidence.

So is the joint Hull academy continuing or reverting to just FC ?

Here he goes, lose the argument, play dumb...

I genuinely don't know , so is it continuing or not ? , and as a joint venture or just FC ?

either way, they arent running their own.

It is widely suggested that outside the top 4/5 academies there isn't the numbers of quality junior players to genuinely produce SL players , so you end up with clubs ' padding out ' their squads just to put a team on the pitch with players nowhere near good enough

Much as we have seen the RFL reduce the number of teams in SL partly to increase the intensity , too many academies results in a drop in standards

It is a chicken and egg situation , unable to recruit enough quality juniors ( plenty of arguments as to why that is the case ) to produce SL players results in clubs getting poor results when audited , not surprising if then clubs dont see it as a worthwhile investment

Or of course clubs could put time and effort into increasing participation and quality in the amateur game in their area. Then there'd be enough players of the requisite standard.

But I suppose that would require long term planning and investment.

HKR ?

Everybody already knew they werent running one of their OWN months ago , nothing to do with being relegated

But you know ALL this

Goodness knows why you need to go of on these point scoring exercises ? , you must be really bored