some widnes fans aren't going to win any IQ contests anytime soon are they?

Don't think there's a need to overreact against the Widnes club itself for some morons that are society's problem. Both Hull and Castleford have been involved in serious incidents since their fines many years ago, this season alone Castleford have had a supporter on the pitch confronting the ref and a couple of weeks ago A bottle was thrown at Leeds players from the Castleford fans at Headingley. Leeds didn't make a complaint and the RFL decided not to punish Castleford. Let's not get into a situation where fans from rival clubs start calling for punishments to others because they have been historically punished themselves. Let's see how Widnes react as a club before we hang draw and quarter them.

Widnes (like other clubs) have had this element of their support for over 40 years. To pretend otherwise is false.

Widnes is a small town where everyone knows of everyone else via the "grapevine". If the Widnes club and more particularly the Widnes supporters and people as a whole (including employers) are serious about rooting these people out they will EASILY be named and shamed within 48 hours. If that doesn't happen I personally will conclude the majority of Widnesians condone this despite any hot air that eminates from them. If that's the case, then the club should be sanctioned and banned from the CC for a couple of years,

Over to you Widnesians. Get them shopped.

Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"£50,000, £30,000 suspended according to this - www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/j ... gue.hullkr.'" That was back in 2000 - so should be significantly higher now to be comparable.

Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"£50,000, £30,000 suspended according to this - www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/j ... gue.hullkr.'" That was back in 2000 - so should be significantly higher now to be comparable.

Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"£50,000, £30,000 suspended according to this - www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/j ... gue.hullkr.'" Is that the same James Rule who is now at Widnes? He must feel cursed.

Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"£50,000, £30,000 suspended according to this - www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/j ... gue.hullkr.'" Is that the same James Rule who is now at Widnes? He must feel cursed.

Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"£50,000, £30,000 suspended according to this - www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/j ... gue.hullkr.'" Very well found but, that is neither from 2000 or, in fact, the incident he is refering to.

Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"£50,000, £30,000 suspended according to this - www.theguardian.com/sport/2007/j ... gue.hullkr.'" Very well found but, that is neither from 2000 or, in fact, the incident he is refering to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LocQ6Bex_68

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LocQ6Bex_68

The article is from 2007 but it refers to the 2000 semi final and says the fine for that are as Wigg'n says.

I'd be happy with that kind of punishment but as Dally says inflated a little since it was 14 years ago.
Something along the lines of £80k fine, 40k of which suspended.

Think the other thing apart from the Widnes fans is LSV should never get another international/Cup semi due to how poor the stewards were, they totally failed in the duties they had and weren't enough of them. There's no way those "fans" should have been able to get on the pitch let alone past half way.

The Police (Greater Manchester, I assume?) were also embarrassingly bad, it took 2 minutes for them to get from the corner of the stadium they were in to the Widnes end and then they did nothing but stand around looking gormless.

Until they sort out Stewarding, they shouldn't be allowed show piece events again.

Total scum. Good restraint by cas fans, especially when they attacked the mascot guy.

Why do fat english men insist on taking their shirts off? Don't they realise they are embarrassing themselves?

Those involved should hang their heads in shame.
However, as I don't think they will they should be very worried about a knock on the door in the next couple of days - with the vast amount of videos/photographs taken every single person can be identified.

As a neutral who attended both games, it was sad to see the best game and certainly the best atmosphere spoilt by mindless idiots.

Both Castleford and Widnes fans were so vocal throughout and really got behind their team - congrats to the Cas fans for not getting involved and for turning out in such numbers. Spoke to a number of Widnes fans who were genuinely disgusted and embarrassed at the behaviour. I hope they name and shame the culprits.

Best of luck to Cas and Leeds at Wembley, both teams deserved their victory. Hope Leeds fans turn out in higher numbers at Wembley though.