Would you really?

And feeder clubs would reduce the strength of RL , in the context it is being used here , where long standing historical clubs are being suggested as becoming them

It would reduce the Championships to whichever club was lucky enough to have it's ' parent ' club have the fewest injuries , I seriously doubt many fans would be happy to pay to watch that

No I don't suppose I would. I mean, I could go around in circles with you about how much we hate each other but there are better things to do with both our times. You know you're not going to get a proper debate with me and that's because I know you are a fraud who is playing games but it's nice to get a reminder from you from time to time that I'm right about that.

Good evening!

Just because Yorkshire can't put together 1 decent football team at the present time isn't relevant , different areas have had good and bad times as regards success , and that still continues , due to having relatively unrestricted promotion and relegation

These 'long-standing historical' clubs are just that, long standing and historical. They arent strong, they arent pushing the game forward, they arent contributing massively to the wider game, they are simply existing.

A long-standing historical club in Leigh has got its begging bucket out again and they are apparently one of the stronger long standing and historical clubs.

many fans arent happy paying to watch what they can watch now and before you bring up franchising as the reason for this, it was exactly the same 5,10,20 years ago aswell.

Im not sure why people would be suddenly turned off by the fact the team they were watching last year, had better players and competed at a higher standard than last year simply because said club had an arrangement with another club whereby they shared some players and back office and facilities unless they were the kind of parochial morons who feel the need to type W1g4n rather than Wigan.

Its also largely down to relatively unrestricted promotion and relegation that massive clubs like Leeds, Sheff Wed and Sheff Utd, as well as Bradford City have come so close to ceasing to operate. Its the reason that Leeds reduced massively the amount they were investing in Thorpe Arch which was a premier training facility which produced huge amounts of young, quality, british players. Its why only now they are starting the journey of building it back to what it was.

Leeds problem was they had an idiot in charge , if they are ' massive ' clubs , why did they nearly cease to exist ?

Bad management is bad management , wether it is Leigh RL club or Leeds United

There are many clubs , not just those in the Championship that aren't contributing to the game and are just existing

Leighs problems are of their own making without doubt , although at the moment the sports governing body aren't helping to create an exciting arena for clubs to build themselves

The current Dual reg system is as far as any ' arrangement ' between clubs as we should go , as for our neighbours from across the borough , believe me they have more parochial morons within the management of their club , than we have in ours

That is true, but bad management can also be exacerbated by relegation. As it was in the case of Leeds United.

Only if you think you are immune from relegation , as Leeds did

That is true and something we are trying to change. Franchising is a part of that. Feeder or partnership arrangements would be another.

There is a limit to the amount the RFL can do. You really need to start looking for other villains, the RFL arent where you need to be looking.

And you were against the Dual Reg system aswell. If Leigh dont want to have an arrangement with Wigan they dont have to. There are 13 other clubs in SL, or they can choose not to have an arrangement with anyone.

Why they wouldnt want an arrangment with anyone I dont know. All the feeder system would be used for is to give a higher level to the best youngsters, and cut out wastage. It seems ludicrous that back office operations and performance management are to you the measure of independence.

In all circumstances relegation exacerbates the problems of bad management.

It didn't do Huddersfield any harm in 2002

You think?

You think it did them no harm at all?

And wasnt it promotion that caused them the problems they suffered in the three years prior to 2002?