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| Harrison is a cracking player and Bridge is one of the best british centres when fit.
Don't see the problem.
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| Quote: Dico "tbh i thought david waite was doing a good job back in the day'"
he was doing the off field stuff well, just a shame he was a rubbish coach. he was of the "pick the best 13 players regardless of position and fit them in somewhere" coaching school, which resulted in us having 5 loose forwards playing at a time.
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| You know what the funny thing is?
There is one guy who is a specialist at bringing together a representative side, simplifying their game, giving them a few things to break down the opposition with and giving them all the self belief in the world.
Problem is, he couldn't be stuffed to go back down the levels to coach your park footballers.
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| Quote: nathanwood7 "Quote: nathanwood7 "I think it is a full time job yes. How is it the world champions, without essentially a major league in their own country to develop (as they mostly use the NRL and Super League) can operate a full time coach yet here in the UK the RFL don't beleive it to be a worth while investment? If it's as part time as you make out with the leagues we have running and the size of our organisation in the UK, Stephen Kearney must be bored out of his t@ts.
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Except Kearney is employed full-time by the Melbourne Storm and so isn't even in the same State or Country as the majority of his players most of the time.'" '" '"
I thought Kearney lessened his capacity at mebourne when he took the Kiwi role and McGuire stepped up to assistant coach?
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| Kearney is an assistant coach at Melbourne and can be seen sat next to Bellamy at all their games, so he certainly doesn't concentrate solely on the Kiwis as was suggested.
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| Kearney is an assistant coach at Melbourne and can be seen sat next to Bellamy at all their games, so he certainly doesn't concentrate solely on the Kiwis as was suggested. Ditto Sheens for Aus.
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| Quote: Richie "Course not. Every team changes every year. Teams that lose tend to change more than teams that win.'"
Which is exactly most peoples point, whilst New Zealand have moved forward we appear to be moving backwards or at the very least standing still, either way it's not good
Quote: Richie "There are plenty on this thread who have clearly dismissed the 2007 success. We have seen Smith described as a failure - despite 2007 being a complete demolition of the team that later became World Champs.
We have seen a team that was completely smashed by England come back to win the World Cup just a year later.'"
Again Smith is being touted as a failure not because of a succcesful 2007 but because of failures since then. If New Zealands progression to win the world cup is classed as a success surely Englands failure to kick on from 2007 must be classed as a failure.
Let's just wait and see what happens in a months time, I'll be happy to come back and eat a bit of humble pie if I'm wrong.
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| Quote: nathanwood7 "Kearney is an assistant coach at Melbourne and can be seen sat next to Bellamy at all their games, so he certainly doesn't concentrate solely on the Kiwis as was suggested.'"
My bad
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| Quote: roamintherange "Which is exactly most peoples point, whilst New Zealand have moved forward we appear to be moving backwards or at the very least standing still, either way it's not good'"
Moving backwards or standing still since when?
Of course we moved backwards since 2007 (if 2007 ever actually happened) with a poor performance in 2008. But then again, the Aussies must have moved backwards too seeing as they failed to win.
How can we have moved backwards, forwards or anything since then?
Quote: roamintherange "Again Smith is being touted as a failure not because of a succcesful 2007 but because of failures since then. If New Zealands progression to win the world cup is classed as a success surely Englands failure to kick on from 2007 must be classed as a failure.'"
Failure s?
In two major tournaments under Smith, we've been great in one and poor in one. You deem that making the coach a failure?
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| I think that to develop the international game it would make sence for Tony to be able to invite all british eligible players for train-on squad, but this only affects the country they play for if they swap to play for england.
So value for players, mixing youth with the top players of the moment, but they can still go back to play for Ireland/Scotland.
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| Quote: Richie "Moving backwards or standing still since when?
Of course we moved backwards since 2007 (if 2007 ever actually happened)'"
So we agree then
Quote: Richie "But then again, the Aussies must have moved backwards too seeing as they failed to win.'"
By their standards, absolutely. Do you think most Aussies view their world cup a succcess?
Quote: Richie "How can we have moved backwards, forwards or anything since then?'"
Since 2008, although we have played no tournaments and indeed beaten the French since //www.northamptonrl.co.uk:193.jpg |