FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > not looking good for Wakey
1012 posts in 68 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach10446
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Jul 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: The Clan "No its not!

This debt was previously the subject of a payment plan which was withdrawn by HMRC after the RFL helped Crusaders move into Admin.

Wakefield hoped to cover the debt with a scheduled payment from York Court properties but the PI decision meant that payment was'nt yet due. Wakefield then approached the RFL with a loan request which was turned down leaving Wakefield exposed to a winding up order from HMRC.

The last gasp was the share issue request from the fans which was never going to work, so we now look like either going into Admin or being wound up.'"


That debt was from 12 months ago and was completely paid off in a [deldonation[/delloan from a benefactor after initial OPP was granted.
This is a new debt caused by the business banking on a £350,000 payment from Yorkcourt who have negotiated with Cala Homes and represented the remaining monies owed on Belle Vue.

I wonder if, during this change in purchaser, Wakefield's Board have added a clause to allow a new set of owners/ limited company to continue to play at Belle Vue until Newmarket is complete. To me it would be the ideal for WTW as rugby team as it would mean that Yorkcourt have a vested interest in getting Newmarket through and completed regardless of the league Wakefield are in at the time and who owns and operates the business.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman16250
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2020Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: The Clan "No its not!

This debt was previously the subject of a payment plan which was withdrawn by HMRC after the RFL helped Crusaders move into Admin.

Wakefield hoped to cover the debt with a scheduled payment from York Court properties but the PI decision meant that payment was'nt yet due. Wakefield then approached the RFL with a loan request which was turned down leaving Wakefield exposed to a winding up order from HMRC.

The last gasp was the share issue request from the fans which was never going to work, so we now look like either going into Admin or being wound up.'"


Yes it is. The winding up order was lodged on the 2nd December. Wasn't that before Cru went into Admin

tb
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman48326
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2023Oct 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Crusaders entered administration in early November iirc

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5793No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200718 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2014May 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "Starbug, don't rule out a 15 team SL. If Wakefield's potential backer has the money, and rumour is that all of the several interested parties have a few bob, then the RFL might not want to lose them by putting their newly owned team out of the top flight!

I present Probiz, Castleford, Halifax and the WCC![/quote]

Not sure exactly what you mean by that IA care to clarify?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2226
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: DemonUK "Seeing as most players contracts end in November I doubt it. One rule and all that. Having said that have they actually signed many or any players'"



Veivers, Dean, Johnson, Mariano, Lee to name but five off the top of my head.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner7665
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: tb "No. As has been pointed out to you on the Wakey board. And as is clear from reading the club statement linked to by Wadski'"



You pointed nothing out to me on the Wakey board; you just offered your take on the statement and the facts as you interpret them.

There's statements from the club and then there's people who know the details...get my drift?

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner7665
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Lets get some crossed wires straightened out,

Wakefield have had numerous tax debts which have been the subject of both winding up orders and repayment plans.

This current debt is for non payment of NI contributions and PAYE, it has been known about for some time and Wakefield had agreed a payment plan with HMRC. Following the RFL and Crusaders actions the HMRC removed their payment plan option and demanded full payment. Wakefield can't pay and so face a winding up order on Feb 2nd. This is not one of the debts from 12 months ago and is not part of the debt that SRW paid off neither is it part of the image rights debt.

Wakefield are still hopefull that they can negotiate with HMRC to re enter a payment plan in order to settle this debt but HMRC are minded to knock them back as they see RL clubs as high risk.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman9721
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2020Apr 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



RL

THE "professional" sport!

Do's the game have a death wish or what?

How many more clubs are "going under" before some realises there is a major problem within the game in this country.

!00 + years and if you look at the history of the game in country is any more further forward regarding expansion in all that time and how many clubs have "gone to the wall"?

SL and franchising, the Saviour of the game.

REALLY!!!!!

Seems like the emperors new clothes to me, just that the crowd is less and less involved.

Framing the future was a document that had a good title if nothing else.

The only frame will be one that says here died RL a game that couldn't control itself or it's members!!

Let's hope it never comes to that but what is the future for the game in GB

REALISTICALLY?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1347No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2022May 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: The Clan "Lets get some crossed wires straightened out,

Wakefield have had numerous tax debts which have been the subject of both winding up orders and repayment plans.

This current debt is for non payment of NI contributions and PAYE, it has been known about for some time and Wakefield had agreed a payment plan with HMRC. Following the RFL and Crusaders actions the HMRC removed their payment plan option and demanded full payment. Wakefield can't pay and so face a winding up order on Feb 2nd. This is not one of the debts from 12 months ago and is not part of the debt that SRW paid off neither is it part of the image rights debt.

Wakefield are still hopefull that they can negotiate with HMRC to re enter a payment plan in order to settle this debt but HMRC are minded to knock them back as they see RL clubs as high risk.'"


The Club statement says "The club owes National Insurance and VAT from recent months and these figures have been included in a petition"

Included along with the PAYE?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1749No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2014Nov 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Leaguefan "
!00 + years and if you look at the history of the game in country is any more further forward regarding expansion in all that time and how many clubs have "gone to the wall"?

SL and franchising, the Saviour of the game.

'"


Sky Television is the saviour of the game.I'm sure it is.

A few honest,competent people in responsible positions would be a help.

j.c
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach6858
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2019Nov 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Leaguefan "RL

THE "professional" sport!

Do's the game have a death wish or what?

How many more clubs are "going under" before some realises there is a major problem within the game in this country.

!00 + years and if you look at the history of the game in country is any more further forward regarding expansion in all that time and how many clubs have "gone to the wall"?

SL and franchising, the Saviour of the game.

REALLY!!!!!

Seems like the emperors new clothes to me, just that the crowd is less and less involved.

Framing the future was a document that had a good title if nothing else.

The only frame will be one that says here died RL a game that couldn't control itself or it's members!!

Let's hope it never comes to that but what is the future for the game in GB

REALISTICALLY?'"


semi pro and amateur after the biggest RL clubs have been invited back into the RFU family.

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner10000No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2020Nov 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Leaguefan "RL

THE "professional" sport!

Do's the game have a death wish or what?

How many more clubs are "going under" before some realises there is a major problem within the game in this country.

!00 + years and if you look at the history of the game in country is any more further forward regarding expansion in all that time and how many clubs have "gone to the wall"?

SL and franchising, the Saviour of the game.

REALLY!!!!!

Seems like the emperors new clothes to me, just that the crowd is less and less involved.

Framing the future was a document that had a good title if nothing else.

The only frame will be one that says here died RL a game that couldn't control itself or it's members!!

Let's hope it never comes to that but what is the future for the game in GB

REALISTICALLY?'"

icon_rolleyes.gif

Come on then "Mr I've Always Gotta Say Something Negative"... what would you do to solve the problem? Because constantly whinging about it day after day, week after week, year after year isn't actually doing anything but annoy people.

Energy wasted on whinging about something could be used to actually do something about it.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member18789No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2023Mar 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Leaguefan NEVER offers solutuons. His "art" is to point out the bleeding obvious. I'm reading these posts from a blackberry and when I started to read his post I knew it was him before I got to his I'd at the bottom. He always types it up in the same awful awful style - punchy one liners but basically sayimg nothing. He knows everything about nothing. Don't you Leaguefan? icon_smile.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner33944No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: littlerich "Leaguefan NEVER offers solutuons. His "art" is to point out the bleeding obvious. I'm reading these posts from a blackberry and when I started to read his post I knew it was him before I got to his I'd at the bottom. He always types it up in the same awful awful style - punchy one liners but basically sayimg nothing. He knows everything about nothing. Don't you Leaguefan?
While you are correct , his posts tend to be on the negative side and rarely if ever offer solutions , better that than some of the ' Barnpot ' ideas we do seem to get

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner10000No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2020Nov 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Starbug "While you are correct , his posts tend to be on the negative side and rarely if ever offer solutions , better that than some of the ' Barnpot ' ideas we do seem to get'"

I'd rather read someone at least trying to offer a solution, no matter how bad it is, than someone whinge constantly and offer nothing. It's just boring.

1012 posts in 68 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint
1012 posts in 68 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, Durham Giant , TimperleySaint



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


1.876953125:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Realistic targets for 2025
weaver93
142
3m
Shirt reveal coming soon
PopTart
49
6m
Pre Season - 2025
Armavinit
213
15m
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
6
48m
Film game
karetaker
5859
54m
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
546
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
MeanwoodGuy
2630
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Super League
FIL
25
2m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
112
2m
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
17
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
MeanwoodGuy
2630
3m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40832
3m
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
546
4m
2025 Season tickets
BarnsleyGull
223
4m
2025 Shirt
--[ WW ]--
27
6m
How many games will we win
Wollo-Wollo-
54
8m
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
10
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
6
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
10
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
PopTart
49
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M +31,801 ↓-2080,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R1
18:00
Toulouse
v
Widnes
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
       Championship 2025-R1
15:00
Bradford
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Doncaster
15:00
Oldham
v
York
15:00
Sheffield
v
Halifax
15:00
Barrow
v
Hunslet
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       League One 2025-R1
15:00
Cornwall
v
Workington
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Crusaders
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Fri 28th Feb
SL
20:00
Huddersfield-Hull FC
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Salford
SL
20:00
Leigh-Catalans
Sat 1st Mar
SL
14:30
Wakefield-St.Helens
SL
21:30
Wigan-Warrington
Sun 2nd Mar
SL
15:00
Leeds-Castleford
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Realistic targets for 2025
weaver93
142
3m
Shirt reveal coming soon
PopTart
49
6m
Pre Season - 2025
Armavinit
213
15m
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
6
48m
Film game
karetaker
5859
54m
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
Recent
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
546
Recent
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
MeanwoodGuy
2630
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
1m
Super League
FIL
25
2m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
112
2m
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
17
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
MeanwoodGuy
2630
3m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40832
3m
Transfer Talk V5
Jack Burton
546
4m
2025 Season tickets
BarnsleyGull
223
4m
2025 Shirt
--[ WW ]--
27
6m
How many games will we win
Wollo-Wollo-
54
8m
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
10
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Matty Ashurst testimonial dinner
Big lads mat
1
TODAY
2025 Squad Numbers
Jake the Peg
6
TODAY
England Women Las Vegas train-on squad
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
MjM
15
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
CM Punk
2
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
Wires71
10
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
PopTart
49
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!