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| Quote: RLRealist "Not to worry, I'm sure you'll enjoy the trip to Hemel and West Wales next season.
So now you’re even taking the Mick out of your own expansionist clubs - you’ve just created a whole new level of stupidity - well done.
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| Quote: Budgiezilla "Toronto should be playing in a Canadian League, because Toronto is in Canada.
Is that straight forward enough for you ? But the RFL are that desperate to add something NEW to our game, we have Toronto and 2 French clubs in the RFL.
Rumour has it, Ralph Rimmer is targeting that wonderful planet Pluto next for a new team to join our league. But with their currency being a 'plip-plop' it could cause a few problems.
Some would say that it's about bl**dy time that the RFL showed desperation to add something NEW to the game. Nigel Wood coasted for years, Ralph Rimmer looks like he's the fat controller's apprentice, Brian Barwick's 'contacts' are all from a 1960s Roladex. The NRL 'bent' their rules to encourage expansion, especially in the case of Melbourne Storm. We can't do anything to assist Toronto? Not even re-arranging a few fixtures?
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| Quote: Asgardian13 "Some would say that it's about bl**dy time that the RFL showed desperation to add something NEW to the game. Nigel Wood coasted for years, Ralph Rimmer looks like he's the fat controller's apprentice, Brian Barwick's 'contacts' are all from a 1960s Roladex. The NRL 'bent' their rules to encourage expansion, especially in the case of Melbourne Storm. We can't do anything to assist Toronto? Not even re-arranging a few fixtures?'"
Wolfpack were admitted to tier 3 under the agreement that until they entered SL they would pay for away travel and accommodation. To date they have done so, albeit with complaints (from fans mainly) about student dorms and travel to training etc, as well as the criminal record v temporary visa saga that lumbers on...all can be described as teething issues and are to be expected.
The 2018 fixture list being skewed because of upgrades to Lamport most assuredly benefited the Wolfpack, but if we are allowing for teething problems, then fine.
What isn't acceptable is Noble and the club whining about home and away scheduling......a block of 4 home games would 100% give the wolfpack an unfair advantage and as such, they've received a compromise....as for the £300,000 spend....their issue, not ours!
As I say, I hope HKR stuff them......another year in the lower tier will cost Argyle another wedge and for all his "bar tab down the local" bravado, this is real cash.
If they go up, then I hope that the SL side enforce their scheduling strictly......and that the powers that be are all over their cap.........
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| In terms of their 2019 schedule 2 home games followed by 2 away games throughout most of the season would seem a fair and reasonable compromise.
February is a problem for them as Toronto doesn’t really get above freezing, they may need to start the season with 3 or 4 away matches, or home games will be postponed due to the weather. You can be sure M62 clubs won’t want to travel to Toronto away on a Wednesday night rearranged fixture.
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| Catalans and Toulouse manage with the standard fixture arrangement. In football clubs could play on a Saturday then in Champions League fly to Russia for a match on the Wednesday and play on the following Saturday.
If Toronto can't handle it, they shouldn't be in this league. Simples.
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| Quote: RLRealist "I'm curious why you have the Canada flag yet you bag the largest city in Canada? Sure you could change it to the Afghanistan flag? South African flag? Gaza flag?
Toronto certainly puts grim cities like Manchester, Leeds and definately Bratfud in the shade.
Manchester is a grim city is it?
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| Quote: Psychedelic Casual "Manchester is a grim city is it?'"
It's North of Watford ain't it....
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| Quote: Psychedelic Casual "Manchester is a grim city is it?'"
not quite as bad as Bradford squire. best thing about Bradford is the road out of it
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| Quote: Asgardian13 "Some would say that it's about bl**dy time that the RFL showed desperation to add something NEW to the game. Nigel Wood coasted for years, Ralph Rimmer looks like he's the fat controller's apprentice, Brian Barwick's 'contacts' are all from a 1960s Roladex. The NRL 'bent' their rules to encourage expansion, especially in the case of Melbourne Storm. We can't do anything to assist Toronto? Not even re-arranging a few fixtures?'"
Melbourne were virtually Perth Reds werent they?
I heard Ian Leningrad say they'd have Perth in the Sooper Leegue.
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| So, the general gist of all this is that Toronto want to play in the UK's Rugby League structure.
However, do not want to play the format of 1 home and 1 away as the league has done for many years as its not good for players/feasible/fair/travelling etc.
May have issues at the start of the season due to frozen pitch, cold weather, so cant play their games at their stadium.
Did no one think this through before applying, and did no one pick this up from the RFL when they applied, pitfalls seem to have been ignored at the expense of bringing a team in that is on the other side of the world into a foreign domestic league. Not knocking Toronto for doing this, but to do so without weighing everything up from both sides is amateurish at best. It sounds like a morning meeting discussion at the RFL and asking the tea lady to sort it out.
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| Quote: RoyBoy29 "do not want to play the format of 1 home and 1 away as the league has done for many years as its not good for players/feasible/fair/travelling .'"
This season Leeds have played 3 consecutive home matches and on 6 occasions played either 2 consecutive home or 2 consecutive away matches. Is alternate home and away the norm?
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "This season Leeds have played 3 consecutive home matches and on 6 occasions played either 2 consecutive home or 2 consecutive away matches. Is alternate home and away the norm?'"
No as stadium availability comes into things. Wigan usually have a month of away games midsession when the football club wants the pitch relaid at the DW.
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| So if The Toronto Wolfpack were to say the Lamport Stadium was unavailable throughout May, they would only be doing something similar to Wigan.
They also need to play the first few games of the season away due to the unplayable Canadian weather in February.
As a result they would be bound to have plenty of pairs of home games for the rest of the season.
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| To allow for some recovery period will Toronto and one other team be using a time machine for the Easter home and away weekend games.
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| Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "So if The Toronto Wolfpack were to say the Lamport Stadium was unavailable throughout May, they would only be doing something similar to Wigan.
They also need to play the first few games of the season away due to the unplayable Canadian weather in February.
As a result they would be bound to have plenty of pairs of home games for the rest of the season.'"
If the RFL had given some thought to Toronto having winter in the Summer Super League then Toronto wouldn’t have been accepted. It still could happen.
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