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[size=150=#FF0000BREAKING NEWS!!
Sky Sports 1
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1 LIVE FORD SUPER SUNDAY - MATCH (SUN 1525) 1,910
2 LIVE FORD MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL (MON 1900) 1,598
3 LIVE FORD SUPER SUNDAY - MATCH (SUN 1230) 1,133
4 FORD SATURDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL LIVE (SAT 1657) 697
5 FL72 LIVE - YEOVIL V LEEDS (SAT 1200) 374
6 GILLETTE SOCCER SATURDAY 09-10 (SAT 1500) 338
7 LIVE PREMIER LEAGUE DARTS/#PREMIER LEAGU (THU 1900 284
=#FF00008 LIVE SUPER LEAGUE (FRI 1900) 243
9 REAL MADRID V AT MADRID-LIVE (WED 1855) 241
10 REAL SOCIEDAD V LEVANTE-LIVE (SUN 1830) 219
...(*Source: barb.co.uk)
They also told porkies about the viewing figures for the Aviva Premiership game on BT Sport 1 which registered 75,000 viewers according to BARB as opposed to the 65,200 claimed by the RFL.
BT Sport 1
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1 BARCLAYS PREMIER LEAGUE (SAT 1200) 973
2 FA CUP (WED 1915) 127
=#FF00003 AVIVA PREMIERSHIP RUGBY (FRI 1900) 75
4 FRENCH LIGUE 1 (SUN 1955) 51
5 AVIVA PREMIERSHIP RUGBY (SAT 1830) 45
6 AVIVA PREMIERSHIP RUGBY (SUN 1200) 44
7 NBA (SAT 1506) 40
8 SERIE A (MON 1943) 29
9 GOAL! BUNDESLIGA PREVIEW (THU 2059) 24
10 FRENCH LEAGUE CUP (TUE 1958) 20
...(* Source: barb.co.uk)
[u To summarise the RFL horse earlier this week.....[/u
1. The 353,000 was actually 243,000 which was less than the 251,000 viewers who tuned into the Widnes V Wakey SL opener in 2012.
2. The alleged 38% increase in viewing figures on last season's SL opener was actually 29% (243K v 188K).
3. The alleged extra 288,000 viewers tuning into Super League on 7th Feb which was alleged to be 543% higher than the alleged viewers for the Union game on the much smaller BT Sport subscription base was actually an extra 168,000 which is 324% higher (243K v 75K).
4. I expect the RFL viewing comparison to BDO Darts on Eurosport (A desperate RFL or what? Well, they are hardly going to compare the figures with Premier League Darts for obvious reasons  ) are garbage as well since according to BARB, Eurosport haven't reported any viewing figures for that week.
5. RFL Lies, Damned Lies and Statistics by plenty 
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Wigan V Hudds was only competing against an Aviva Premiership game on BT Sport and BDO Darts on Eurosport that night FFS |
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[uPHOENIX NIGHTS LEAGUE TABLE - Week 1[/u
1. Premier League Darts 6/2/14 - 284,000
2. Wigan V Huddersfield 7/2/14 - 243,000
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"condescending pr1ck....I can read just fine thanks.
As I said, 47,013 in attendance at the game blows holes in your badly thought out sweeping and incorrect comments.....Water-cooler moments aside
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It's not at all. Top Premier League clubs like Man City have had to bring in various ticketing and pricing schemes in order to boost cup attendances. I believe Man Utd now forces season ticket holders to buy tickets for their home cup games in all competitions. |
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| Quote loiner81="loiner81"Not really sure what your point is, are you insinuating the RFL are making up the 353,000 or that someone in the press office made a mistake working out a percentage?'"
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| Quote shinymcshine="shinymcshine"Try dropping an email to the RFL press office and see if they can explain it, as this might give the answer, alternatively we can continue to debate without ever actually uncovering anything like the truth.'"
No need.
The BARB figures that have just been released confirm what I suspected all along.
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| Quote loiner81="loiner81"The audience was also 288,000 more than tuned in to watch the live Premiership rugby union match, Worcester v Leicester on BT Sport 1, which was watched by 65,200 people – 543 per cent higher - and 293,500 (593 per cent) more than the 59,500 who watched live World Trophy darts on Eurosport.'"
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| Quote Him="Him"It's not at all. Top Premier League clubs like Man City have had to bring in various ticketing and pricing schemes in order to boost cup attendances. I believe Man Utd now forces season ticket holders to buy tickets for their home cup games in all competitions.'"
FFS.....
The claim was that the CC and RFL were getting grief for LOW ATTENDANCES and then the poster immediately used City v Chelsea as an example.....unfortunately for them, regardless of if the entire crowd were there on freebies, bussed in from the West Bank or turned up by mistake thinking they were going to an Elton John concert, the Stadium for City v Chelsea was 98.35% full......given the Hard-on on here regarding the RLWC Final that saw Old Trafford 98.33% full, I'd suggest that the CC compares terribly........
Arsenal at 99.11%....there's another poor turn out that proves it's not just the Challenge Cup
Yes, Sunderland 33%, Cardiff 63%, Sheffield United 76% and Everton 79% had empty seats......but this is the round of 8 games......let's compare the last 16 in the 2013 Challenge Cup shall we?
Hull FC 30%, London 8%, Sheffield 8%, Huddersfield 46% (let's talk cheap tickets shall we?), Catalan 24%, HKR 43%, Wire 36% and Workington 17%
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"FFS.....
The claim was that the CC and RFL were getting grief for LOW ATTENDANCES and then the poster immediately used City v Chelsea as an example.....unfortunately for them, regardless of if the entire crowd were there on freebies, bussed in from the West Bank or turned up by mistake thinking they were going to an Elton John concert, the Stadium for City v Chelsea was 98.35% full......given the Hard-on on here regarding the RLWC Final that saw Old Trafford 98.33% full, I'd suggest that the CC compares terribly........
Arsenal at 99.11%....there's another poor turn out that proves it's not just the Challenge Cup
Yes, Sunderland 33%, Cardiff 63%, Sheffield United 76% and Everton 79% had empty seats......but this is the round of 8 games......let's compare the last 16 in the 2013 Challenge Cup shall we?
Hull FC 30%, London 8%, Sheffield 8%, Huddersfield 46% (let's talk cheap tickets shall we?), Catalan 24%, HKR 43%, Wire 36% and Workington 17%
I'd think the best course of action here would be for you to step away and put down the shovel.'"
No I think the best course of action here would be for you to grow up and actually debate an issue properly for a change.
Whether the Man City v Chelsea game was a good example or not (in fact it wasn't used as an example in that context anyway) is irrelevant to the actual issue of declining interest in domestic cup competitions.
Do you agree that top Premier League clubs have had to introduce ticketing and pricing schemes specifically to increase cup attendances?
If so, then do you agree that the presence of these schemes at the most popular clubs in the most popular sport in the country indicate a decline in interest in these competitions?
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Let's!
Quote HimQuote Him="Starbug"An interesting point on sports attendance is on show at the moment, despite it being 2 Premiership clubs on show the Stadium Of Light is looking very sparce for a Cup match to be 2 matches from Wembly, Season Ticket only football fans as well it would seem'"
Quote Him="ThePrinter"Exactly. People have been making out the drop in CC attendances is the fault of SL and the RFL but in reality domestic cup competitions don't hold the same appeal anymore.....not just in RL. Man City are playing Chelsea later, nobody is really fussed who wins.....nothing like when the two met in the league a few weeks back. Most of the build-up has centred around Mourinho's mind games over Pellegrini and others and how this would effect the title race. Not that arguably the 2 strongest teams in the country are clashing.'" '"
Firstly, let's cover the context issue. Whether anyone gives a toss about the FA cup games is neither here nor there in the context of the quotes used above.
Starbug observed the banks of empty seats and The Printer followed up with an opinion regarding peoples attitudes to the FA cup. These observations are connected as one leads into the other and given the first one was in regards to actual attendances, then the attendance at the City v Chelsea game is valid. Because it doesn't suit your agenda doesn't make it any less so. Hope that clears the context issue up for you.
Now you've introduced "ticket offers" to the mix. Are you saying that cheap tickets offer no long term benefits to those who offer them? Are you saying that to offer them indicates a struggling sport?
I'd suggest you forward your concerns to Red Hall and mark them for the attention of Miss S. Bolton
The FACT is that 47,013 people did give a toss....another 60k in London cared and even 30k in Everton could be d....the comparison is flawed because the RL clubs also made offers, but less people gave a toss, cared or could be d.....by a massive amount! |
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And they said Richard Lewis wasn't operated on at Roswell.
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