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This is turning into quite an infuriating conversation

Dally, you are laughing at the Kiwi’s not being competitive and yet they hold the two international trophies of the 4 Nations and the World Cup beating Australia in both finals – I suspect that even your Australian compatriots will feel embarrassed for you when they read that

As for Origin. I have stated quite clearly on this thread that I grew up watching it and idolising the players – I have not said at any point that I would like it to end it and it is quite rightly revered as top class Rugby League

As for your point about the 6 Nations. I too would rather watch a SOO match that a 6 Nations match (as I am a RL fan) but in the bigger picture, I would rather see a competitive international competition contested by 6 nations annually and regularly drawing crowds of 80k week to week. If you cannot see that then you are a fan of Australian Rugby League but not Rugby League

What I do take exception to is saying that I have a chip on my shoulder. What I am able to see is that the sport of Rugby league is dynamic, skilful and fantastic to watch and if we had the vision in our sport to take it away from its insular playground and showcase it to the world (as RU has done) we would see it become ever more popular. But no – you would rather see two states in Australia (that the vast majority of the world’s population couldn’t find on a map) play our sport as the pinnacle rather than the international game. Again, this was understandable until the Kiwis rose to the challenge but for some reason you are dismissing the world champions as uncompetitive!

I have no doubt that you will reply to this post and pick out a few key words without even trying to consider what I am saying and I also have you doubt that you would continue to post until I gave up trying to have a rational conversation with you – and as is the way of the internet you would think you have won the argument by force of will rather than the strength of your case

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OLDHAM RLFC RUGBY LEAGUE CHAMPIONSHIP WINNERS: 1904-05 1909-10, 1910-11, 1956-57 Runners Up: 1906-07, 1907-08, 1908-09, 1921-22, 1954-55 FIRST DIVISION CHAMPIONS: 1904-05 RUGBY LEAGUE CHALLENGE CUP WINNERS: 1899, 1925, 1927 Runners Up: 1907, 1912, 1924, 1926 LANCASHIRE CUP WINNERS: 1906–07, 1909–10, 1912–13, 1918–19, 1923–24, 1932–33, 1955–56, 1956–57, 1957–58 Runners Up: 1897–98, 1900–01, 1907–08, 1909–10, 1921–22, 1956–57, 1957–58 LANCASHIRE LEAGUE CHAMPIONS: 1897-98, 1900-01, 1907-08, 1909-10, 1921-22, 1956-57, 1957-58 Runners Up: 1895-96, 1896-97, 1898-99, 1899-1900, 1908-09, 1910-11, 1911-12, 1923-24, 1954-55 SECOND DIVISION CHAMPIONS: 1963-64, 1981-82, 1987-88 SECOND / DIVISIONAL PREMIERSHIP WINNERS: 1988, 1990 Runners Up: 1992 NORTHERN FORD PREMERSHIP Runners up : 2001 NATIONAL LEAGUE TWO/CHAMPIONSHIP 1 Play off final runners up: 2007,2008,2009,2010:14417.gif



Quote: Dunbar "This is turning into quite an infuriating conversation

Dally, you are laughing at the Kiwi’s not being competitive and yet they hold the two international trophies of the 4 Nations and the World Cup beating Australia in both finals – I suspect that even your Australian compatriots will feel embarrassed for you when they read that'"


even more embarrassed when they realize the kiwis have never beaten GB/England in a series in england icon_lol.gif

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Quote: roughyedspud "even more embarrassed when they realize the kiwis have never beaten GB/England in a series in england

More embarrassing than coming third in a three team comp, the team that came second lost 2 points for fielding and ineligible player. Still jagged second. (how bad were the Pommies) (Best Pack in the World apparently, they must be upset with the Backs as they have been the Best Pack for a decade without winning anything) icon_lol.gif

It does not get much worse than that, unless its 2004 and one man hands you your Arse before he tells his team mates to slow down in the second half because it embarrassing the game at International level.

Last but not least GB with all the Guns on board play a one off Test in Oz mid season with all the Australian players firing on all eight Cylinders. If one word had to describe the result. MURDER. The English team management pronounced that such matches would never be held again.

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Quote: roughyedspud "even more embarrassed when they realize the kiwis have never beaten GB/England in a series in england
As ECT said 1998.
The Kiwis won 2-1
Facts are not your strong point Master Roughy.
How did Mr Price do in last years SOO? icon_lol.gif


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coming 3rd in a 3team comp downunder,playing 4 consecutive tests against the #1 & #2 ranked teams in world RL....nowt embarrassing about that pal...infact we won in sydney....more than the kiwis did...anyone with any sense of reality would class that tour as a sucess

and......aahh the old 'taken our foot of the gas argument'.....i love that one...i suppose the aussies took their foot off the gas at the JJB in the 2009 4nations game? so much so you did'nt even get out of your half in the 2nd half and for 2 very close video ref calls you would have lost that game...and gone out of the 4nations...how unprofessional..

Quote: "Last but not least GB with all the Guns on board play a one off Test in Oz mid season with all the Australian players firing on all eight Cylinders. If one word had to describe the result. MURDER. The English team management pronounced that such matches would never be held again.'"


yeah i can't see why flying halfway round the world then playing a single test after 2 or 3 days rest did'nt take off....tool icon_lol.gif



and 1 kiwi test series win in 104 years.....my bad icon_lol.gif

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1907 and 1971 also. I just mentioned 1998 because it was so recent only a child or a complete retard wouldn't be able to remember something that recent.

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Quote: roughyedspud "coming 3rd in a 3team comp downunder,playing 4 consecutive tests against the #1 & #2 ranked teams in world RL....nowt embarrassing about that pal...infact we won in sydney....more than the kiwis did...anyone with any sense of reality would class that tour as a sucess

and......aahh the old 'taken our foot of the gas argument'.....i love that one...i suppose the aussies took their foot off the gas at the JJB in the 2009 4nations game? so much so you did'nt even get out of your half in the 2nd half and for 2 very close video ref calls you would have lost that game...and gone out of the 4nations...how unprofessional..

yeah i can't see why flying halfway round the world then playing a single test after 2 or 3 days rest did'nt take off....tool

Coming third in a three team comp should never be classed as a success regardless of events or issues. That is why England GB fails all the time and it excused as ok.

Australia were already in the final and changed their team and rested Key players for the GB game as a good Coach would

With the 2004 tri nations where Lockyer tore it up, why do you think 40 points were scored in the first half and only 4 in the second half?
Maybe they were sick of scoring.

Last games in England should have had a match committee to see what happened.
Tore England up at will and went into their shell.

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Spud. ECT says you are full of it.
Have you actually ever been to a game?

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Quote: Jonesy "Coming third in a three team comp should never be classed as a success regardless of events or issues. That is why England GB fails all the time and it excused as ok.'"

Perhaps you should have a work with your compatriot dally who suggests that the Kiwi’s are ‘uncompetitive’ despite holding both international trophies on offer

Logic only works when it suits the Aussies I guess

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Quote: Dunbar "Perhaps you should have a work with your compatriot dally who suggests that the Kiwi’s are ‘uncompetitive’ despite holding both international trophies on offer

Logic only works when it suits the Aussies I guess'"



I do not care what the other poster says, he is his own Man and can say what he likes.
I am happy to see another Country win major Tournaments
It should have been England / GB

I will say this if Oz played any country in a 3 or 5 Test series I would put my House on the results.
The kiwis have done well and they have had the rub of the Green, its been good for the game.

What the game needs is England to step up not NZ who are not rated, after seeing the Exiles game and Sam Tomkins seen as the Messiah I doubt I will be alive to see that change in the game.

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Quote: Dunbar "This is turning into quite an infuriating conversation

Dally, you are laughing at the Kiwi’s not being competitive and yet they hold the two international trophies of the 4 Nations and the World Cup beating Australia in both finals – I suspect that even your Australian compatriots will feel embarrassed for you when they read that

As for Origin. I have stated quite clearly on this thread that I grew up watching it and idolising the players – I have not said at any point that I would like it to end it and it is quite rightly revered as top class Rugby League

As for your point about the 6 Nations. I too would rather watch a SOO match that a 6 Nations match (as I am a RL fan) but in the bigger picture, I would rather see a competitive international competition contested by 6 nations annually and regularly drawing crowds of 80k week to week. If you cannot see that then you are a fan of Australian Rugby League but not Rugby League

What I do take exception to is saying that I have a chip on my shoulder. What I am able to see is that the sport of Rugby league is dynamic, skilful and fantastic to watch and if we had the vision in our sport to take it away from its insular playground and showcase it to the world (as RU has done) we would see it become ever more popular. But no – you would rather see two states in Australia (that the vast majority of the world’s population couldn’t find on a map) play our sport as the pinnacle rather than the international game. Again, this was understandable until the Kiwis rose to the challenge but for some reason you are dismissing the world champions as uncompetitive!

I have no doubt that you will reply to this post and pick out a few key words without even trying to consider what I am saying and I also have you doubt that you would continue to post until I gave up trying to have a rational conversation with you – and as is the way of the internet you would think you have won the argument by force of will rather than the strength of your case'"


yep id rather watch nsw vs queensland than australia vs NZ or england

so do most australians

u can work out why lol

RU has an international program and we in austraia crush them

so what exactly are we missing out on?

sure a stronger int. program will help but its not essential for us

sorry

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Quote: ECT "1998'"


lol

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Quote: dally messenger "sorry'"

No need to apologise that you can’t see beyond your small world. I guess I expected too much from you, it’s a pity but I can live with it

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I thought you were a Kiwi supporter anyway, Dally.

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