I actually knew that just forgot, the colours made it obvious and it's a name that has some history, I'm ok with it.

The ones I hate with a passion are Wigan Warriors, Leeds Rhino's and Bradford Bulls - 3 of our most prestigious clubs reduced to cartoon monikers that have absolutely no history or relevance. I know many will attempt to defend them but deep down I don't think they really believe it.

I ask you this, have any football teams ever seriously attempted this and I'm talking all 90 odd clubs not just the big ones who'd never dream of such sacrilege? To me this is the preserve of wannabe sports who need to get noticed. Please don't tell me it works in America, we are not American!

If i were running the SL the first thing I'd do is call the CEO's in and tell them to restore some dignity. Wigan RLFC, Leeds RLFC, Bradford Northern RLFC...Just like Manchester United FC, Liverpool FC and Chelsea FC. Certainly not Chelsea Super Buns, Liverpool Bin Dippers or Manchester Mank Thunder Dragons.

I thought St Helens were the glassblowers?

York City Knights home 2021...

Castleford well known for its glassmaking industry.

I think St Helens actually had a greater variety of industry than just glass (Beechams, for example)

Instead he called them in and advised them to "modernise" their club crests and now we have the monstrosities of Salford, Wigan and Huddersfield. No doubt it's behind this change from Halifax too.

Not saying I agree or disagree with this as both views have good points. I think in the 90's it was a much needed rebrand and what we especially did with the Bulls and Keighley did with the Cougars brand was brilliant for the sport at the time. Yes it's Americanized to an extent or is it more Australianised? They had teams like Balmain Tigers, Illawarra Steelers, North Sydney Bears, Western Suburb Magpies (tried not including the big ones here either) in the 1980's? For us personally, I think Northern isn't a brand you can take nationally or internationally, but the Bulls is one you can.

Also isn't Manchester United technically a rebrand as they were Newton Heath! (Just having a laugh here).

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At the risk of incurring the wrath from Cokey, Budgie and co, that home one looks a lot like a Wigan kit from a few years back.

ST Holders voted from a selection. I voted neither of those two.

Nice simple kit. Needs Dessie Drummond and John Woods modelling it.

Well, it is only right that our reserves team look like us

In all seriousness, a pair of smart kits there, had no idea Ellgren were still around. Glad Leigh have escaped Kukri, having dealt with Kukri myself as a teamwear & kit supplier they were completely useless.

Ellgren have relaunched. Mostly with a retro/heritage range of clubs like Bradford Northern, Ryedale-York etc (probably where they can get away with producing old shirts because the logo isn't copyrighted by the current club).

Like those Leigh kits.

As a kid from the 80s/90s I would say it's more of an Oldham shirt than Wigan. Much prefer Wigan in irregular hoops.

Leigh are thin hoops for me. (Pretty sure a Leigh fan will point out if i'm wrong)

You're right,but it has differed over the years, Here are a couple of oldies.

Yeah always seem to see Oldham as thick hoops, Leigh thin and Wigan irregular hoops.