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| Breaking - The 2 point deduction has been moved to a 2 point suspended deduction until March 2020, meaning that Wigan have got their points back and will keep them if they are not naughty boys again - an entirely predictable 'middle ground' outcome. I have no problem with this as long as similar future cases are dealt with in the same way (but we all know they won't)
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| Pies get their 2 points back...I'm shocked !
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| Quote: GIANTSRL "likely get the 2 points back once they have appealed
obvious they would get them back!
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| Wow. Just wow.
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| Quelle surprise !
After an early intervention from Me Elstone, this was NEVER in doubt.
Cheating Pies run rings around the hierarchy of the sport again.
If it was right to dock the points in the first place and NOTHING seems to have come to light to say that the deduction was wrong, WTF is the governing body doing.
It's like "we" are frightened of upsetting them.
Obviously, previous breech of the rules doesn't make any difference.
Trash the cap, hide payments to agents and just carry on.
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| Quote: wrencat1873 "Quelle surprise !
After an early intervention from Me Elstone, this was NEVER in doubt.
Cheating Pies run rings around the hierarchy of the sport again.
If it was right to dock the points in the first place and NOTHING seems to have come to light to say that the deduction was wrong, WTF is the governing body doing.
It's like "we" are frightened of upsetting them.
Obviously, previous breech of the rules doesn't make any difference.
Trash the cap, hide payments to agents and just carry on.'"
Come on man it was less than £15k for flights and agent fees
I'm not a Wigan fan but the two point deduction was ridiculous and this punishment makes far more sense.
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| Quote: Nothus "Come on man it was less than £15k for flights and agent fees
And to the poster who said "If it was right to dock the points in the first place etc."
Well It obviously wasn't was it?
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| Be a lot more straightforward if the RFL just awarded Wigan 2 points every time they [ididn't[/i cheat the cap
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| I guess that’s the point of an appeal process.
My belief is that ANY salary cap breach should result in a points deduction. It’s the only thing clubs take seriously. This precedent has given any club the go-ahead to spend 15k over the cap and only receive a fine (if they are even caught). To some clubs, that will look like an appealing option.
I’d like to see mandatory points deductions that are clearly set out, so if a club breaches the cap by £x, they know how many points they will be deducted and we’ll have a fair and transparent system. I’d be tempted to deduct one point for every 10k over the cap for the first offence, two points for every 10k over the cap for a second offence etc etc etc.
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| Does anyone think Wigan would have been given 2 points back if they were top of the league?
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| Quote: HuddsRL5 "Does anyone think Wigan would have been given 2 points back if they were top of the league?'"
No, or most other clubs be given them back at all.
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| Cheat the cap, hide it from the RFL and no punishment? No point having a cap.
Apparently Leeds are struggling to land the prop they want because of salary cap issues, this clears that up, just ignore the cap and get whoever you want. The precedent has been set.
And before anyone preaches about a 'technical breach' all breaches are technical. The salary cap is a hard limit, if you go £15k over it that means you've paid out £15k too much and you don't get to say "Ah, but that was just by accident because of agents fees or bonuses" because it still allowed you to spend £15k on wages that you otherwise wouldn't have been able to.
I was disappointed that three time cheats Wigan were let off with just a 2 point penalty. I'm disgusted that they've been let off completely.
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| Quote: Big Jim Slade "Cheat the cap, hide it from the RFL and no punishment? No point having a cap.
Apparently Leeds are struggling to land the prop they want because of salary cap issues, this clears that up, just ignore the cap and get whoever you want. The precedent has been set.
And before anyone preaches about a 'technical breach' all breaches are technical. The salary cap is a hard limit, if you go £15k over it that means you've paid out £15k too much and you don't get to say "Ah, but that was just by accident because of agents fees or bonuses" because it still allowed you to spend £15k on wages that you otherwise wouldn't have been able to.
I was disappointed that three time cheats Wigan were let off with just a 2 point penalty. I'm disgusted that they've been let off completely.'"
Good for you.
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| Quote: jinkin jimmy "Good for you.'"
And terrible for the game in this country. Still, Wigan fans don't really care about the game do they, just about Wigan.
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| The correct decision. To call it a salary cap breach to gain an advantage is simply absurd.
The numbers were so small that deducting points was just way too harsh.
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