Don't agree just get rid of the people who caused it why punish the rest of us with fines and point deductions. Moaning Bradford fans cost my club a fortune because a tiny group of peed up youth apparantly sang some mildly racist songs. I'm not defending and why should I, frankly I don't care it wasn't my fault and it wasn't WTRLFC's fault - only in hindsight can we know these people are s. Anyway in the scheme of the things compared to the racist/sectarian genocide being comitted by ISIS, Russia and NATO in the middle east it's nothing. I'm sick of people who just love being offended by almost anything and who seem to want to suffer the abuse by proxy.

So as ever the lowest common denominator wins every time. I don't know how satisfied our over sensitive Bradfordites were at the resultant fine but I can assure you it didn't cost the perpatrators a penny nor I suspect do they care or feel any remorse. It did cost our Chairman Michael Carter who paid some of the bill and it probably cost a yongster the chance to join the first team to make up the rest.

So everyones a winner and the ethnic minorities of Bradford can sleep easy in their beds knowing the a visit to BV will be a joy for them from now on, or at least it would be if they ever went in the first place or where actually bothered in any way by what happened or in fact are even aware of what happened.

Feel free to be outraged.

Just seems to me that RL fans ain't got the hang of this hooliganism lark yet. They fight among themselves rather with the opposition! Actually, I suspect it is more a case of inbreeding and frustration at not getting onto the Jeremy Kyle show despite numerous applications.

PS The Dewsbury incident - was that the one I saw on video were a few women were having a minor set to in a bar? It's a family game girls - you are upsetting the men and boys.

You're not defending it. You're just saying it's someone else's fault entirely. Specifically, you're saying it's the fault of the people it was perpetrated against. They are the cause of the fine.

You are quite right to say these fines do nothing though. Look at you right now, f'rinstance.

Bang on Vasty. The 20 grand fine WTW was harsh but the bar was already set by a dozen morons at my club (Tigers) a couple of years earlier - the Gareth Thomas chant.

Not sure how this has turned into a Bradford bashing thread.

The moaning Bradford fans didn't cost your club the money. It was the idiots doing the racist chanting and chants about the Bradford City fire.

I feel sorry for the genuine wakey fans as you say,it was a minority. But RFL cant be seen just to do nothing.

*fan

And the poster who said you should have points deduction is a well know WUM

When more than 95% of fans can have a good drink and enjoy themselves and cause no bother at all and when flares and smoke bombs do actually add to a big sporting fan occasion sometimes?

Oh dear.

Because turning a blind eye to the issue of alcohol for the sake of the majority is working so well. We are not going to solve these problems by pussy footing around.

And who on earth (apart from braindead hooligans) think smoke bombs and flares are a good idea?

Hull FC fans thought smokebombs were a good idea last Friday.

Neither of these things happened but I guess it makes your fans sound not so bad.

The media have blown it totally out of proportion and sadly the image of Sau grappling the fan make things look a hundred times worse, making him look like the aggressor in the situation.

I'm not denying we at Widnes don't have our share of numpties, a few received bans after the Cas semi final, it's how the decent fans react to the situation.

Without wanting to drag up an old issue, I have no idea how anyone can deny that the Widnes fans didn't assault the Castleford mascot and make an effort to fight with the Castleford fans. On this occasion Widnes "fans" marched from one end of the pitch to the other, goading the Castleford fans clearly inciting violence. Thank god not a single Cas fan reacted (we have our share of idiots but they must have been on holiday that day), and the behaviour of Cas fans in the face of such provocation was praised by both the RFL and the Widnes club itself. Indeed, some of the Castleford players and some stewards needed to physically restrain some of the hooligans from entering the Castleford stand.
Video footage also clearly shows the Castleford mascot being attacked.
The incident at Salford was minor compared to the behaviour at the end of that game. Widnes did not suffer a points deduction, so Salford should be in no danger of this.