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| Quote: Catalancs "They won't let Samuels anywhere near a rugby legaue club. Many clubs have had one or more idiots run them into debt as many posters on here well know.'"
The ' real ' story will probably never come out , was he really as bad as he has been portraid , or was he , how shall we say ' misled '
One thing is probably for certain doing something as an act of ' revenge ' against an organisation that upset you isn't a good enough reason to be allowed,to run a RL club , if in the future we ' expand ' again lets hope its done better |
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| Quote: Catalancs "They won't let Samuels anywhere near a rugby legaue club. Many clubs have had one or more idiots run them into debt as many posters on here well know.'"
Did he not already have previous though? |
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You mean with what he did with the union club? As Crusaders were a lower league club at the time I have a feeling the RFL turned a blind eye. A mistake which shouldn't be repeated.
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| Quote: Catalancs "You mean with what he did with the union club? As Crusaders were a lower league club at the time I have a feeling the RFL turned a blind eye. A mistake which shouldn't be repeated.'"
Setting them up was one thing and in fairness looked like a great project but as soon as he made noises about leaving if no SL (3 years in) they should of smelt a rat! |
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I'm loath to say to much on the matter as my own club have had financial problems in the past including six figure debts.
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Quote: Starbug "The ' real ' story will probably never come out , was he really as bad as he has been portraid , or was he , how shall we say ' misled '
One thing is probably for certain doing something as an act of ' revenge ' against an organisation that upset you isn't a good enough reason to be allowed,to run a RL club , if in the future we ' expand ' again lets hope its done better'"
I think it is already being done better. The people at Wrexham have their heads screwed on a lot better than the people who ran things in Bridgend in 2007 and 2008 especially. The 2009 incmubants tried to pick up the pieces but didn't do it in the right way and helped to dig the already large hole even larger. Hopefully, the club will now be able to have some kind of positive re-start. 2010 wasn't a re-start, it was the same club in a different location and I think everyone's aware of that now.
Plus of course there's South Wales Scorpions who are being started in the way Crusaders should have been. There's no rush to get to Super League or even the Championship, we're developing at our own pace and using 95% local players. Scorpions new head coach will be revealed in a couple of hours time and it will be positive news again for the development of Welsh players. The club will also be announcing at least one more Welsh-born youngster being added to the squad too plus there's open trials this Sunday where over 40 (weather permitting) will be taking part. All this is being revealed at www.scorpionsrl.com soon so keep your eyes on it. |
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Quote: Starbug "The ' real ' story will probably never come out , was he really as bad as he has been portraid , or was he , how shall we say ' misled '
One thing is probably for certain doing something as an act of ' revenge ' against an organisation that upset you isn't a good enough reason to be allowed,to run a RL club , if in the future we ' expand ' again lets hope its done better'"
I think it is already being done better. The people at Wrexham have their heads screwed on a lot better than the people who ran things in Bridgend in 2007 and 2008 especially. The 2009 incmubants tried to pick up the pieces but didn't do it in the right way and helped to dig the already large hole even larger. Hopefully, the club will now be able to have some kind of positive re-start. 2010 wasn't a re-start, it was the same club in a different location and I think everyone's aware of that now.
Plus of course there's South Wales Scorpions who are being started in the way Crusaders should have been. There's no rush to get to Super League or even the Championship, we're developing at our own pace and using 95% local players. Scorpions new head coach will be revealed in a couple of hours time and it will be positive news again for the development of Welsh players. The club will also be announcing at least one more Welsh-born youngster being added to the squad too plus there's open trials this Sunday where over 40 (weather permitting) will be taking part. All this is being revealed at www.scorpionsrl.com soon so keep your eyes on it. | |
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| Quote: Starbug "The ' real ' story will probably never come out , was he really as bad as he has been portraid , or was he , how shall we say ' misled '
One thing is probably for certain doing something as an act of ' revenge ' against an organisation that upset you isn't a good enough reason to be allowed,to run a RL club , if in the future we ' expand ' again lets hope its done better'"
Don't talk about things you have no idea about, that makes you look like a troll. Leighton Samuel is without doubt a man with access to defamation lawyers. tb . I have had two rugby clubs taken away from me by this asshole. Leighton should not be allowed to run his own business let alone a club. I hate that man with a passion. As do thousends of people in bridgend. Thousends of people that would of turned out to watch the crusaders should good ol leighton not be there. He throws his toys out of the pram at every single chance. He threatened the WRU with pulling out numberous times, threatened the RFL with pulling out if we didn't get SL. |
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Samuel is a lot to blame but not totally you can't look past the ignorance if spending big on coached and squad Inc mid season signings from Union whilst adding to an existing debt! Heads screwed on? Really? 'this will save Wrexham FC' hmmm wonder how finely these debts have been looked at and what the football club debts now look like...?
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Andy Taylor of the Guardian reports that they could come out of Administration today under the same owners but with a different name.
Its like 'we owe tons of money but don't want to pay it, so lets go into adminsitration, and then start up a new company in exactly the same business as we were in before, in the premises we were in before, but if we change the name we should be ok'
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| Quote: DemonUK "Andy Taylor of the Guardian reports that they could come out of Administration today under the same owners but with a different name.
Its like 'we owe tons of money but don't want to pay it, so lets go into adminsitration, and then start up a new company in exactly the same business as we were in before, in the premises we were in before, but if we change the name we should be ok''"
It is odd as I thought they had put in rules to stop this happening... I'm no expert but seem to recall something. Mainly as you had the likes of Stephen Vaughan putting Chester into administration seemingly every 6 months and then buying them back each time for a pittence of the debt.
Is a switch of 'directors' simply enough as not sure how the same Chairman can do it unless plans to pay 100% of debt off? |
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Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
On his face. If he worried he hid it.
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| Quote: Spongolium "Don't talk about things you have no idea about, that makes you look like a troll. Leighton Samuel is without doubt a man with access to defamation lawyers. tb . I have had two rugby clubs taken away from me by this asshole. Leighton should not be allowed to run his own business let alone a club. I hate that man with a passion. As do thousends of people in bridgend. Thousends of people that would of turned out to watch the crusaders should good ol leighton not be there. He throws his toys out of the pram at every single chance. He threatened the WRU with pulling out numberous times, threatened the RFL with pulling out if we didn't get SL.'"
I am quite aware of the depth of ' feeling ' towards Mr Samuels in Bridgend , I pointed it out several times on these very boards after my visits down there in 2007/8 as a reason the Celtic Crusaders would fail , only to have others like yourself suggest I was talking bollox
As for thr truth , well there are probably only a small number of people who really know that , mr Samuels is one and the rest would be from the RFL
The bottom line is all are guilty of varying degrees of not doing things properly , lets hope that
1 the Wrexham project does succeed even if it means it being funded properly
2 we dont get another fiasco like it again |
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It takes the pi55 out of Widnes if this happens as they were refused a place last time in favour of these guys and was told because of their administration they werent getting it.
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If what happens?
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They ARE allowed to ditch all their debts ...........changes names again and stay in SL, runnng out of Wrexham, which isnt a million miles away from Widnes.
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