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Yeah, he's gonna stay at Barth.

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"Rested" again for this weekends game even though Bath have a few injuries to deal with.

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Sadly' when Burgess comes back to Rugby League, the reaction in the Union world will be minimal. He will just be a league long shot who could not cut it. For all the excitement on here his attempted switch will only have shown us in a negative light. A move to Super League would just compound that perception of failure for Union types. The sooner he gets back to Australia and plays at the top level the sooner we can forget about this farce.

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The story is looking like it must have something behind it as it's now being reported on sky. They don't usually report stuff without a decent source.

It must have been pretty devastating for Sam to read interviews from his fellow team mates that his selection caused such a rift in the squad and was blamed for a disastrous WC.

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Quote: Levrier "Sadly' when Burgess comes back to Rugby League, the reaction in the Union world will be minimal. He will just be a league long shot who could not cut it. For all the excitement on here his attempted switch will only have shown us in a negative light. A move to Super League would just compound that perception of failure for Union types. The sooner he gets back to Australia and plays at the top level the sooner we can forget about this farce.'"


i disagree. he made the England team within a few months, and were leading Wales by 7 points when he was taken off. in my opinion had Burgess remained on the field England wud av won. J Roberts thought, right Burgess is off, give me the ball.

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Quote: Levrier "Sadly' when Burgess comes back to Rugby League, the reaction in the Union world will be minimal. He will just be a league long shot who could not cut it. For all the excitement on here his attempted switch will only have shown us in a negative light. A move to Super League would just compound that perception of failure for Union types. The sooner he gets back to Australia and plays at the top level the sooner we can forget about this farce.'"


There is no problem with this whatever
Burgess' pride may be slightly hurt but, it makes sense all round to get the guy playing a better sport that he is superb at playing.
Also, "failing" at the other code happened all the time back in the 80's but, in those days, it was the Union boys that couldn't hack playing League.

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Quote: tenerifeRhino "The story is looking like it must have something behind it as it's now being reported on sky. They don't usually report stuff without a decent source.

It must have been pretty devastating for Sam to read interviews from his fellow team mates that his selection caused such a rift in the squad and was blamed for a disastrous WC.'"


nah, Sky just want ratings. And they've just taken it frm Danny Weidler (Chann.9). The Mole on twitter, is the most reliable source on RL stuff I've come across.

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Quote: OzWelsh "i disagree. he made the England team within a few months, and were leading Wales by 7 points when he was taken off. in my opinion had Burgess remained on the field England wud av won. J Roberts thought, right Burgess is off, give me the ball.'"


I'd agree with that. If the Union media wanted a scapegoat, it should have been that prop (Marler?) {and the forwards coach} who wouldn't push straight or whatever that resulted in so many penalties (and points) against England RU.

Agree that Sam's initial instinct would be to fight on to make a success. BUT he's subsequently come to realise:

- After a much needed rest, he is wasting his life / talent putting himself on a RU field where they require only a fraction of what his talents can offer
- How unjustifiably nasty the Union mafia media can be
- He doesn't enjoy the game of Union and misses playing RL
- NRL is more intense over a season than SL - so his best option is Leeds Rhinos (with or without a possible final 3 or 4 years in the NRL) after at least one year at Headingley. (My guess is he'll opt for the middle way of seeing out his career with the Rhinos and looking forward to playing for England in the 2016 Four Nations and 2017 Rugby League World Cup).

Guessing it's gone quiet as there are a lot of negotiations going on behind the scenes with the involvement of lawyers!

With him not playing RU again this week, it looks like Sam's on his way home.

The Union media will put whatever spin on it they want - but my guess is that the less blinkered Union people will watch on SKY and see Burgess starring and displaying amazing talent again for both Leeds Rhinos (hopefully many more times at Wembley and Old Trafford) and England RL (including hopefully helping us win the RL World Cup IN Australia in 2017) and start to see that the problem is not Sam Burgess but in fact the nature of the Union game.

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Perhaps this is being looked at from the wrong angle. Is there not a real chance that Bath are the ones who have made the choice for Sam and have made it known to various Chairmen that he is available for transfer?

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Quote: Marrob II "Perhaps this is being looked at from the wrong angle. Is there not a real chance that Bath are the ones who have made the choice for Sam and have made it known to various Chairmen that he is available for transfer?'"


If they have they haven't told Mike Ford. He's in the press again saying it's all lies and he's going to extend his Bath contract.

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The whole thing strikes me as Burgess fancying a bit of what SBW has. He is an expert at swinging between the codes and there was constant speculation about his future, which is great from a PR point of view. Burgess seems to be following the same business model, big speculation and move to RU. Then the selection (Which was a pre-agreed part of his contract, don't let them fool you otherwise) for England keeps him in the press. Had he just sloped off back to Bath he would have fallen out of the headlines, so instead he's started the rumours of the move back to the NRL to keep his name in the press. His appearance at the England RL game was needless, especially sitting next to the coach.

IMO it's all a big PR smear. He'll stay in Union this season and beyond if he gets picked by the Lions. If not, he'll return to League.

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If he wants to play for the Lions in New Zealand, he's got what's left of this season and all of next to learn to play in the back row, get good enough at it to get selected for England, and then surpass the likes of Warburton, Tipuric, Faletau, Heaslip, O'Brien, Croft, Armitage, Denton et al to get himself into the top seven or eight back rowers in Britain.

Massive ask, and the kind of challenge he would probably thrive on, but I honestly can't see him being successful at it.

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Quote: Saddened! "If they have they haven't told Mike Ford. He's in the press again saying it's all lies and he's going to extend his Bath contract.'"


Might be more believable if he just said he's staying rather than he's extending his contract. With 2 and a half years left on his current I doubt any of the parties involved are in a rush to extend it until a better idea of whether he'd make it as a back rower becomes clearer.

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Quote: Andy Gilder "If he wants to play for the Lions in New Zealand, he's got what's left of this season and all of next to learn to play in the back row, get good enough at it to get selected for England, and then surpass the likes of Warburton, Tipuric, Faletau, Heaslip, O'Brien, Croft, Armitage, Denton et al to get himself into the top seven or eight back rowers in Britain.

Massive ask, and the kind of challenge he would probably thrive on, but I honestly can't see him being successful at it.'"


And Bath have just tried to sign Faletau but the Wales coach wouldn't allow it. So is that attempting a big name signing in the back row because Burgess is leaving?

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Quote: ThePrinter "And Bath have just tried to sign Faletau but the Wales coach wouldn't allow it. So is that attempting a big name signing in the back row because Burgess is leaving?'"


Faletau's a specialist number eight. If the idea is to play Burgess at 6 then it would be in place of Francois Louw, who I think might be out of contract at the end of this season?

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