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| Quote: EL CAMO "All the Hull fans claiming the Zod is an idiot because Hull played well last night should be reminded that last season they didn't drop a point for the first 5 weeks and then had a nightmare season.
Don't count your chickens eh lads. ![]()
he is 
we didnt have a playmaker the last 2 seasons and our pack was weak unlike this season, lets see how the season goes eh before all the assumptions come in.
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| Quote: pmarrow "I think personally he is letting his hatred for Hull get in the way of his judgement. I don't think we'll win it far from it but after the dross we've served up last two seasons I'm sure you'll forgive FC fans for celebrating a win like this. ![]()
Have to say I agree. The main issues for me over hull's squad in the last couple of years has been lack of a playmaker to lead you round the park and question marks over the coach.
You appear to have resolved at least one of those, and - whilst crusaders would've probably turned saints over on that performance - I reckon you've got every right to be optimistic that you'll have a strong year.
Right, now I've said that - I'm off for a lie down 
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| Quote: reddan "Have to say I agree. The main issues for me over hull's squad in the last couple of years has been lack of a playmaker to lead you round the park and question marks over the coach.
You appear to have resolved at least one of those, and - whilst crusaders would've probably turned saints over on that performance - I reckon you've got every right to be optimistic that you'll have a strong year.
Right, now I've said that - I'm off for a lie down ![]()
Funny how when either a team who isnt meant to win, gets little credit, and it's the team that lost that played so badly, and not the team that won playing well and making the other team look bad.
Hull didnt let saints play, the 17 that they had was very strong, but Hull with strong defence and good attacking play came up with the win.
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Because sometimes teams just dont turn up, things dont go for them and many other factors including the other team being brilliant.
Leeds Utd knocked Utd out of the cup and that wasnt because Leeds were so brilliant they could do what no other teams been able to do for years, it was because Utd didn't turn up
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| Quote: Dave K. "Funny how when either a team who isnt meant to win, gets little credit, and it's the team that lost that played so badly, and not the team that won playing well and making the other team look bad.'"
A bit like some not giving teams like Rovers credit for finishing so high in the league, I had seen plenty of comments like 'this is the worst standard in SL so far' etc. Not from yourself may I add. |
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| Quote: Dave K. "Funny how when either a team who isnt meant to win, gets little credit, and it's the team that lost that played so badly, and not the team that won playing well and making the other team look bad.
Hull didnt let saints play, the 17 that they had was very strong, but Hull with strong defence and good attacking play came up with the win.'"
It's also funny how when you give a club some credit, you still get moaned at.
Realistically every result has something to do with the way [iboth[/i sides perform. Hull deserve alot of credit for the win, clearly saints didn't turn up. |
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| Quote: reddan "It's also funny how when you give a club some credit, you still get moaned at.
Realistically every result has something to do with the way [iboth[/i sides perform. Hull deserve alot of credit for the win, clearly saints didn't turn up.'"
You just said even the team at the bottom of SL would've turned Saints over that night. That isn't giving the club credit, is it? That's saying it's the other club's fault that we won.
Saints weren't exactly shocking, were they. They dominated us in the first 20, made plenty of breaks and had plenty of chances. They may not have been at their best, but they put in a lot of effort. They were just beaten by the better side. Even the Sky team, who are usually creaming all over them, gave Hull the credit and recognised Saints just weren't good enough despite the effort. |
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| Quote: Dave K. "Funny how when either a team who isnt meant to win, gets little credit, and it's the team that lost that played so badly, and not the team that won playing well and making the other team look bad.
Hull didnt let saints play, the 17 that they had was very strong, but Hull with strong defence and good attacking play came up with the win.'"
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "You just said even the team at the bottom of SL would've turned Saints over that night. That isn't giving the club credit, is it? That's saying it's the other club's fault that we won.
Saints weren't exactly shocking, were they. They dominated us in the first 20, made plenty of breaks and had plenty of chances. They may not have been at their best, but they put in a lot of effort. They were just beaten by the better side. Even the Sky team, who are usually creaming all over them, gave Hull the credit and recognised Saints just weren't good enough despite the effort.'"
Saints were poor, but I also said you'd resolved one of your major issues of the last few years and you've every right to be optimistic about success. I also said earlier in the thread that you had a good enough squad on paper to reach the GF.
Bloody 'ell, if that isn't credit from a Rovers fan, I don't know what is.
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| Quote: Rupert Pupkin "A bit like some not giving teams like Rovers credit for finishing so high in the league, I had seen plenty of comments like 'this is the worst standard in SL so far' etc. Not from yourself may I add.'"
Your right it wasnt by me, i wasnt even talking about Hull, but SL in general when Hull, Rovers or Wakey etc win a game that they wern't expected to, it is always the team not playign well, rather than the team that wins getting the credit. |
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| Quote: reddan "Saints were poor, but I also said you'd resolved one of your major issues of the last few years and you've every right to be optimistic about success. I also said earlier in the thread that you had a good enough squad on paper to reach the GF.
Bloody 'ell, if that isn't credit from a Rovers fan, I don't know what is.
Oh, and I never mentioned Harlequins ![]()
Just as a matter of interest, HOW were St's poor??? They completed a high percentage of their sets, didn't miss that many tackles and has a decent share of possession?
The down side to there performance was due mainly to lacking ideas (because their main playmaker for the previous 12 seasons was on the opposing side) and lack of size in the pack (something their opposition has hd problems with for the past 2 seasons).
In short, Hull have improved their squad in areas where St Helens have become weak.
St Helens didn't actually play that poorly for the personnel they have, it was just that Hull were far superior on the night.
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Just as a matter of interest, HOW were St's poor??? They completed a high percentage of their sets, didn't miss that many tackles and has a decent share of possession?
The down side to there performance was due mainly to lacking ideas (because their main playmaker for the previous 12 seasons was on the opposing side) and lack of size in the pack (something their opposition has hd problems with for the past 2 seasons).
In short, Hull have improved their squad in areas where St Helens have become weak.
St Helens didn't actually play that poorly for the personnel they have, it was just that Hull were far superior on the night.'"
Good post my friend, bang on the money for mine. |
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "Just as a matter of interest, HOW were St's poor??? They completed a high percentage of their sets, didn't miss that many tackles and has a decent share of possession?
The down side to there performance was due mainly to lacking ideas (because their main playmaker for the previous 12 seasons was on the opposing side) and lack of size in the pack (something their opposition has hd problems with for the past 2 seasons).
In short, Hull have improved their squad in areas where St Helens have become weak.
St Helens didn't actually play that poorly for the personnel they have, it was just that Hull were far superior on the night.'"
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