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| Quote: Bull Mania "Agreed. Since Wood left have the RFL actually done anything apart from two copy and paste statements from the previous year for the bash and magic. There is a complete vaccum of authority from the the RFL at the moment. The sport is on borderline crisis with pitiful crowds and awful on field antics becoming the norm. Someone needs to grab the sport by the knackers and sort it out.
The RFL need an integrity panel that dishes out harsh punishments for these sorts of incidents IMO'"
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| Quote: Wigg'n "Trial by social media is nothing new. The reality is always harsher if/when the evidence comes out. The club probably received a complaint and thought the pair were just being a couple of annoying ed-up idiots - I bet RL clubs acorss the country get a load of these every year. Seeing as we're doing a lot of assuming, you could also assume the bar manager never complained of physical assault or Wigan would've taken a stronger stance.
The club should be applauded for reacting quickly to the evidence coming out, versus the Hull club that did sweet FA on the Albert Kelly video.'"
How do you know this, are you on the Hull RLFC board/management?
So you oppose trial by social media (or you should do) but want a club to release everything it does including personal disciplinary of its staff via social media so that the likes of you can make up tripe without any facts. I bet your workplace is hilarious when it comes to outing staff on facebook/instagram/ter et al with respect to disciplinary procedures  |
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| Quote: Bull Mania "Agreed. Since Wood left have the RFL actually done anything apart from two copy and paste statements from the previous year for the bash and magic. There is a complete vaccum of authority from the the RFL at the moment. The sport is on borderline crisis with pitiful crowds and awful on field antics becoming the norm. Someone needs to grab the sport by the knackers and sort it out.]]
The RFL need an integrity panel that dishes out harsh punishments for these sorts of incidents IMO'" there lays the problem no one has the balls to stand up and be counted, Wood has left a sinking ship and Rimmer is a joke |
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We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif |
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| Quote: AS108 "I’ve said they’ve behaved unacceptably here but the bar staff escalate the situation and deal with it poorly. The couple who came over shouting get out didn’t help either. If you shout at someone who is drunk the chances are they aren’t going to take it very well. Sam and Joel should have left earlier however.'"
Sorry but you are victim blaming here. |
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Well Joel Tomkins’ statement strongly suggests it was him who made the “arrangement” for the video to be deleted:
“Worried about what might happen next, and as a gesture of my genuine remorse, an agreement was reached to delete the video.“
That’s not remorse, Joel, that’s a bribe.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Well Joel Tomkins’ statement strongly suggests it was him who made the “arrangement” for the video to be deletedThat’s not remorse, Joel, that’s a bribe.'"
They don't know the difference in Wigan. |
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Interesting to hear one of the staff say to Sam Tomkins “take your mate out”. Amongst the condemnation, there have been a few comments along the lines of “they only filmed them because they are rugby players”. As the bar staff didn’t know they were brothers, it seems unlikely they knew who they were at all.
Think he’s got to go. He physically intimidated the member of staff at the door by putting his face into her’s and then strikes out at the member of staff who is filming (as she is entitled to).
I hope the RFL are able to bring charges too.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Interesting to hear one of the staff say to Sam Tomkins “take your mate out”. Amongst the condemnation, there have been a few comments along the lines of “they only filmed them because they are rugby players”. As the bar staff didn’t know they were brothers, it seems unlikely they knew who they were at all.
Think he’s got to go. He physically intimidated the member of staff at the door by putting his face into her’s and then strikes out at the member of staff who is filming (as she is entitled to).
I hope the RFL are able to bring charges too.'" |
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "Interesting to hear one of the staff say to Sam Tomkins “take your mate out”. Amongst the condemnation, there have been a few comments along the lines of “they only filmed them because they are rugby players”. As the bar staff didn’t know they were brothers, it seems unlikely they knew who they were at all.
Think he’s got to go. He physically intimidated the member of staff at the door by putting his face into her’s and then strikes out at the member of staff who is filming (as she is entitled to).
I hope the RFL are able to bring charges too.'"
RFL bring charges. Dream on dude, they won't do anything just like they stayed silent on the Albert Kelly affair.
Is there another sport where the governing body sits back and does nothing when incidents like this happen? |
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Should be a police matter, common assault and public order offence.
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Should be a police matter, common assault and public order offence.'"
You maybe right in principle but in reality they would have most probably just got a caution and it would be a waste of taxpayers money |
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[quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm]
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Is there anything in the RFL's operational rules that allow them to take action?
The players are ultimately employees of the clubs so in the first instance it is up to the clubs to address any breaches of discipline. This isn't the NFL where the players are effectively centrally contracted.
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In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, the people that came in. They're eating the cats! They're eating the pets!:18686.jpg |
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Once again the game is dragged through the mud jeez, it's even got a half hour slot on The Wright Stuff!
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