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For all the failings of Toronto on terms of management they did lead in the field of entertainment & engagement in fan experience..'"
I could not agree less.
All TWP games came with a free beer festival, in which many attendees didn't watch, but stayed in the beer tents, yet were counted as fans.
Free tickets were showered on the locals.
The exit gates were left open all match for people to wander in free
Announced attendances were far greater than English fans who attended games thought they were. So much so English fans started doing headcounts.
The minute they landed at Headingley to play here, most fans stayed in the bar and only four Wolfpack fans could be spotted........ |
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|  "match day experience"?
if you have to entertain people during a match surely you are doing it wrong on the field...... |
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| Quote: jools "
I know what you mean but that's not necessarily true when you are trying to entice children. I took my nephew to his first game on Sunday. He's 5 and whilst he loved the first 30 mins he sort of lost focus after that. Partly because we were being utterly bent over by Whitehaven and we all started frothing at the mouth, but mainly because it was a bit bewildering for a young lad who'd never seen Rugby before. Fortunately at Odsal we could take him off and go look at something else for a bit whilst Whitehaven ran in unopposed.
Clearly not everyone has acres of space to play with but I think it is about putting a package of entertainment in place, even if the game itself is the primary focus.
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| Quote: Donnyman "I could not agree less.......'"
I find myself agreeing with you....which is weird.
Toronto returned to Lamport at the weekend.....they were playing a team that most torontonians had never heard of, sort of like when they played most teams from the UK, but there were barely 300 people there and just 2 brewers.......it seems that without the subsidy and a billionaire (sic) throwing money about, they aren't the drawcard some on here believed them to be.
Lamport without a few thousand + beer lovers at one end ignoring the game is a whole different kettle of fish..,..they are to be applauded for persevering and should be given every assistance possible, but they aren't the silver bullet that RL fans seem to be searching for.
2022 is a HUGE year for th sport in the UK......if the clubs can fill grounds then it will be hard for SKY to ignore, especially if we can turn the heads of other broadcasters.
Get full stadiums on the BBC as part of the FTA deal and even if you have to bus people in, fill grounds for challenge cup games on TV......because perception is everything and a west Yorkshire team v a west Yorkshire team in front of 4,000 in a 12,000 stadium just.looks tin pot |
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| Quote: orangeman "
a west Yorkshire team v a west Yorkshire team just.looks tin pot
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Troll off....... |
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| Quote: orangeman "I find myself agreeing with you....which is weird.
Toronto returned to Lamport at the weekend.....they were playing a team that most torontonians had never heard of, sort of like when they played most teams from the UK, but there were barely 300 people there and just 2 brewers.......it seems that without the subsidy and a billionaire (sic) throwing money about, they aren't the drawcard some on here believed them to be.
Lamport without a few thousand + beer lovers at one end ignoring the game is a whole different kettle of fish..,..they are to be applauded for persevering and should be given every assistance possible, but they aren't the silver bullet that RL fans seem to be searching for.
2022 is a HUGE year for th sport in the UK......if the clubs can fill grounds then it will be hard for SKY to ignore, especially if we can turn the heads of other broadcasters.
Get full stadiums on the BBC as part of the FTA deal and even if you have to bus people in, fill grounds for challenge cup games on TV......because perception is everything and a west Yorkshire team v a west Yorkshire team in front of 4,000 in a 12,000 stadium just.looks tin pot'"
It seems a tad off thread....but the Toronto attendance merely,in my opinion,demonstrates exactly why marketing works.
No group of people marketing the club once rich guy leaves = small attendance.
Slightly closer back to thread...it is noticeable how clubs who enjoyed even the briefest time in Super League are able to retain a small core of supporters through the bad times.It is far better to have reached the summit,and fallen,then never to have reached the summit at all.
I point towards Newcastle Thunder...where the hardcore loyalists and stalwarts of the club were at Gateshead Thunder in the late 90's...and North Wales Crusaders who were in Super League at Bridgend and Wrexham.
Maybe a structure change where those who were never in Super League are given funding to match those who have been in Super League since the 1990's.Oh,I forgot,the appointed commercial superstar appointed by Super League superstars failed to gain more commercial success... |
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| Quote: jools "
It’s called marketing.
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Toronto give out free tickets = lol they only get a good attendance because of free tickets.
Bradford give out free tickets = oh what an amazing attendance
The fact that a supposed heartlands club has to give out free tickets so their attendance is higher than 600 is utterly embarassing
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| Quote: orangeman "I find myself agreeing with you....which is weird.
Toronto returned to Lamport at the weekend.....they were playing a team that most torontonians had never heard of, sort of like when they played most teams from the UK, but there were barely 300 people there and just 2 brewers.......it seems that without the subsidy and a billionaire (sic) throwing money about, they aren't the drawcard some on here believed them to be.
Lamport without a few thousand + beer lovers at one end ignoring the game is a whole different kettle of fish..,..they are to be applauded for persevering and should be given every assistance possible, but they aren't the silver bullet that RL fans seem to be searching for.
2022 is a HUGE year for th sport in the UK......if the clubs can fill grounds then it will be hard for SKY to ignore, especially if we can turn the heads of other broadcasters.
Get full stadiums on the BBC as part of the FTA deal and even if you have to bus people in, fill grounds for challenge cup games on TV......because perception is everything and a west Yorkshire team v a west Yorkshire team in front of 4,000 in a 12,000 stadium just.looks tin pot'"
Whereas Yorkshire v Lancashire in front of 16,000 would look fantastic if marketed correctly !!! |
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| Quote: TheWarringtonWolve69 "Toronto give out free tickets
How many "free" tickets did Bradford give out ?
Note *Derek Beaumont gave out 10,000 free tickets as a Thank You when already promoted end of 2016*
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| Quote: Ste100Centurions "Whereas Yorkshire v Lancashire in front of 16,000 would look fantastic if marketed correctly !!!'"
3 Game series played Wednesday night, FTA TV, almost free tickets to start with, a must have replica jersey.........if only we could come up with a catchy name for it........something ORIGINal.
Clubs would never allow it. SKY would drown it at birth unless they were given control and fans would whine about getting up for work the next day...best create it and put it straight on the X-Box  |
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3 Game series played Wednesday night, FTA TV, almost free tickets to start with, a must have replica jersey.........if only we could come up with a catchy name for it........something ORIGINal.
Clubs would never allow it. SKY would drown it at birth unless they were given control and fans would whine about getting up for work the next day...best create it and put it straight on the X-Box ![]()
Alternatively & as Oasis say "Roll with it" & as it's not a Super League fixture Sky have no say, si if they want the subscriptions & advertising revenue they cough up large like they do for the 100 cricket.!!!
We can't let lack of ambition & 8@11$ kill the game through lack of forward momentum !!!
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| Quote: Ste100Centurions "Alternatively & as Oasis say "Roll with it" & as it's not a Super League fixture Sky have no say, si if they want the subscriptions & advertising revenue they cough up large like they do for the 100 cricket.!!!
We can't let lack of ambition & 8@11$ kill the game through lack of forward momentum !!!'"
I'm game
[i[sizeIF[/size[/i.....you can get the SL clubs to release players 3 TIMES mid season, for a game that might injure them or possible right them off for the season
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then maybe...just maybe, we'd try it for a year before caving in and reverting to Magic as a pseudo way to grow the games exposure |
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| Quote: jools "
What don't you understand? People who are learning the game, still need to enjoy the game and the day out. This is 2021, not 1971. We are competing with every other family attraction and/or distraction.
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3 Game series played Wednesday night, FTA TV, almost free tickets to start with, a must have replica jersey.........if only we could come up with a catchy name for it........something ORIGINal.
Clubs would never allow it. SKY would drown it at birth unless they were given control and fans would whine about getting up for work the next day...best create it and put it straight on the X-Box ![]()
This could also be used as a measure for International selection etc
Nothing wrong with the concept but, it needs fitting into the fixture calendar, rather than squeezed in at the last minute.
Just for novelty, each side could have, say, 2 wild card selections.
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