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Quote: Cas Till I Die "Catalans needed 3 years, London have had 33 and you want ten more ??? Then what ??? Another ten and another ten and another ten ..... Flogging a dead horse'"


Careful.

You will be accused of trolling if you make any negative comments towards London.

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Quote: gutterfax "nope...more to do with the fact that the RFL and D.Hughes could never agree on who should pay to market the game in the south when the only real beneficiary was the game itself.
The games where they tried to do something (not arty loving farty viral videos) they actually got crowds in bigger numbers.....the club was never marketed properly.
There are an estimated 1,000,000 expat northerners in London....when the bigger teams visit a decent proportion of "away" fans are in fact, locals....never have the RFL offered to help identify these people, even though they has the details on 22,000 of them from the last Wembley double header.'"


So these away fans, why would they stop supporting their team and switch over to London now if they'd not done it before? Even if the RFL chose to target these fans, they're fans of visiting clubs so they're only going to show up once a year. You say London hasn't been marketed properly, I don't think targeting those people would be worthwhile as they're clearly not interested in seeing London.

The fact is no one beyond a few dozen London fans seems to actually care if there's a SL club in London or not.

There's all this talk about how it's nots fair, London should have a bigger salary cap to compensate for their geographical location and all the rest of it. And personally, I'd say fine, they can have the bigger cap if they can financially justify it by bringing in big enough crowds and income to pay for the larger cap and not be reliant on massive year on year bailouts from their owner as that's unsustainable as the current situation clearly shows. But there just isn't the interest in the sport or the club in the area. If there was then the club would at least be able to point at it's crowds and say "Look, we have people coming" but they don't and really never have. There's no truly viable fanbase there either home or away. Certainly not away. Most other SL clubs have gotten wise to the fact they're going to get a poor crowd when London come to town and most now use that game for some kind of cut price ticket offer to try and encourage local fans to come down to make up the shortfall.


Yes, the club may be poorly marketed, but what about when you were linked with Harlequins? One of the most recognisable club brands in either code. Still failed to grab anyone's interest. Still failed to find a market to BE marketed in. If London was a real bronco, it would have been shot years ago for being lame.

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For a London RL CLUB TO BE SUCCESSFUL at top level needs lessons to be learned from the Fulham days. The club has to become part of an established London soccer club. Play there, take it's name, play in its colours and win over the bulk of the soccer clubs fans.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: The Poltroon "Any news on what London have brought to super league yet?'"

why? are you having trouble identifying anything that other SL clubs have brought that London haven't?
Quote: The Poltroon "Careful.

You will be accused of trolling if you make any negative comments towards London.'"

No, he makes a relevant point by addressing the success of Catalan Dragons.....you on the other hand have yet to make a relevant point.

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If london dont make it Huddersfield should have their catalan away fixture swapped from the rubbish march tie to the better august one

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: roofaldo2 "So these away fans, why would they stop supporting their team and switch over to London now if they'd not done it before? Even if the RFL chose to target these fans, they're fans of visiting clubs so they're only going to show up once a year. You say London hasn't been marketed properly, I don't think targeting those people would be worthwhile as they're clearly not interested in seeing London. '"


First up, to say "even if" in regards to marketing strategy is pointless. The RFL claim 22,000 of the crowd who attended the 4 Nations Doubleheader were London based....surely if these people attended a RL international, then top flight RL is of interest to them? The fact that the RFL, armed with this data have not used it to assist in the expansion of the game outside of its heartlands is a mistake.

Quote: roofaldo2 "The fact is no one beyond a few dozen London fans seems to actually care if there's a SL club in London or not.'"

If that was a fact, we'd have been dead in the water in 2005. Yes, we don't have the 6,500 ST holders that Bradford have(10,000 if the price is right icon_wink.gif

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Let's replace the Bronco's in SL, with the London Skolars !!!!!
"I am a genius" ! icon_lol.gif

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Budgiezilla "Let's replace the Bronco's in SL, with the London Skolars !!!!!
"I am a genius" !
I'd take the owner and administrators at the Skolars over those at London Broncos in a heartbeat......what they have slowly started to achieve there is brilliant, but I do remind you that they're on the pitch successes are down in no small part to the development work done by the London SL team.....

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The writing's been on the wall for a long time, mostly due to incompetence from our board and the lack of promotion from the RFL down here. They can go on about having a London presence, but what have they done to develop the sport here? I haven't seen anything advertising the Wembley semi-finals in London, and I was at the Chile game recently and there was nothing locally or at Wembley stadium promoting the event.

Even if we do survive this, which I don't believe we will, we'll just see another name change and ground hopping, before the owner loses interest and we're back at square one again. The only decent chance we've had was the Harlequins link up, which gave us a home, a local base to grow on, links with St Mary's University etc. but we've thrown it all away to change name back to a previously failed club. The idea from the board was that the Broncos name would grow the fanbase again, but it has fallen heavily, because our fans have been disillusioned watching the same crap week after week and having no answers from the inept board, who have now blamed the location for our support falling rather than the obvious.

The worst part is, they'll be over 70,000 fans in London this weekend, maybe 10/15% have never been to a game before, and it would have been the perfect time to promote the club in the programme, with flyers, announcements etc, in the hope of finding more fans.

The only way I can see a brighter future, is to have a local community club in Championship 1 and build from there, sharing with a local non-league club and just using our academy players in the squad, whilst most importantly growing a local community aspect, something we've never even attempted in 33 years.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



EVEN THE FREAK IS RIGHT :SUBMISSION: :lol: [quote="-VIKINGMAN-"]Respect to Roofs, the president of East Hull. :wink:[/quote]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_17371.jpg



GF I think Keighley deserve a lot more credit and respect than that. Along with their Second Division title I'm sure they also won at least one Premiership trophy in that era. But it's not just that, they were simply a revolution at the time, but it always gets forgotten because (as much as I have a soft spot for Bradford), the Bulls stole their ideas and became huge from it.
In early '95 the Cougars' momentum and fanbase for a second-tier club was insane (I've still never seen a club - even FC - take over New CP like Keighley did on Good Friday '95). If the RFL / Sky hadn't been so corrupt and had given Keighley the SL place they deserved I believe they would have still been in it today, and achieved London's feat of never finishing in a relegation place.
Geographically the Cougars are pretty close to Wakey, Bradford, Leeds, Cas, and even the Hull clubs really. They'd have brought a hell of a lot more support and revenue to all these clubs than London ever did even in their prime, as well as get double or treble the home support London have.
I'm sorry to go on about it as I know it's been a pointless debate for a long time, but it's still one of the most senseless, corrupt and bent decisions I've seen in RL during my time as an RL fan, and so if London do leave SL (which they won't, obviously), it'll be about time IMO.

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I do not want London to stop playing because since I moved down south they are the nearest place I can get to, to see HULL KR only 2 hours away from me so its handy to go their to watch them but you are right by now they should be better icon_smile.gif

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