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Quote: Newton-Le-willows-Warrior "when all the aussie based players come back in I hope we line up something like

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Ryan Atkins
4. Jack Reed
5. Ryan Hall
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Gareth Hock
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Lee Mossop
15. Luke Burgess
16. Ben Westwood
17. Mike McIllorum'"

Ryan Atkins for Kallum Watkins is the only change in personel i'd make in that team, Watkins as good as he is has in attack has been a turnstile in defence for Leeds this season, Also i'd keep the Jack Reed & Ryan Atkins partnership together.

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Quote: George Agdgdgwngo® "Don't be daft our pack gets dominated week in week out having a world class 6 wouldn't make a difference behind these softcock forwards.'"


it would, plenty of times leeds had a chance to attack but sinfield jus ran side ways and threw a flat/forward pass or just passed it back inside. he just isn't a 6 and shouldn't be played there.

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Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook must be close to selection for at least the knights! Having a great season!

Imagine if he was a Wigan player...there'd be countless threads moaning about the fact he hadn't been included icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Albion "Louie McCarthy-Scarsbrook must be close to selection for at least the knights! Having a great season!

Imagine if he was a Wigan player...there'd be countless threads moaning about the fact he hadn't been included I think you'll find there are a number of posts by Wigan fans saying LMS should have been selected.

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Quote: dubairl "it would, plenty of times leeds had a chance to attack but sinfield jus ran side ways and threw a flat/forward pass or just passed it back inside. he just isn't a 6 and shouldn't be played there.'"
He's won enough Grand Finals playing at 6 and doesn't need to prove anything to a know-nothing Wigan fan: Sinfield is plenty good enough a 6 for Leeds - when he gets his form back at least. If England played in Leeds' way and with Leeds' structure then it would make sense to play him, if on form, there. But for this game and in this form - no way.

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Quote: MjM "it would, plenty of times leeds had a chance to attack but sinfield jus ran side ways and threw a flat/forward pass or just passed it back inside. he just isn't a 6 and shouldn't be played there.'"
He's won enough Grand Finals playing at 6 and doesn't need to prove anything to a know-nothing Wigan fan

i obviously know a lot more than you if you think he is a good 6! how many grand finals has he actually playing at 6? and i wouldn't say he is the main reason for leeds success just a decent player in a very good team. he is a terrible 6 slow, passing not up to it, decision making poor, creativity well there is none and shoddy defending.

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Quote: MjM "He's won enough Grand Finals playing at 6 and doesn't need to prove anything to a know-nothing Wigan fan

Hes a good clubman no doubting that. Just never international standard. No shame in that. Doubt it will worry him in 20 years time when he looks back at his medals.

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Quote: dubairl "how many grand finals has he actually playing at 6? '"


Two.

2004 and 2011. Remarkable longevity.

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And 2011 was won 100% by Rob Burrow
Every other Leeds player owes him there winners rings

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Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "I think you'll find there are a number of posts by Wigan fans saying LMS should have been selected.'"


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Quote: Newton-Le-willows-Warrior "when all the aussie based players come back in I hope we line up something like

1. Sam Tomkins
2. Josh Charnley
3. Jack Reed
4. Kallum Watkins
5. Ryan Hall
6. Gareth Widdop
7. Danny Brough
8. James Graham
9. James Roby
10. Sam Burgess
11. Gareth Hock
12. Gareth Ellis
13. Sean O'Loughlin

14. Lee Mossop
15. Luke Burgess
16. Ben Westwood
17. Mike McIllorum
'"


I'd have a similar team to this but a few changes.

1. I'd play Briscoe over Charnley. Both very good but I think that Briscoe is slightly better at the moment. Briscoe has done really well in an average/poor side over the past couple of years, whereas Charnley has been in a very strong team to help him out. Also, Briscoe didn't do anything wrong the last time he played for England.
2. I'd swap out Watkins for Atkins. Watkins, whilst talented, has constantly been injured and Atkins has been playing very well and deserves to play.
3. I wouldn't have in Luke Burgess. Playing in the NRL doesn't mean that you're better than others, and I think that there have been better players than him this year. Patrick, Crabtree, etc, would all be ahead of him in my opinion.

So

Tomkins
Hall
Reed
Atkins
Briscoe
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Burgess
Hock
Ellis
O'Loughlin

McIllorum
Crabtree
Mossop
Westwood

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From that squad I would go for

Sam Tomkins
Tom Briscoe
Ryan Atkins
Leroy Cudjoe
Ryan Hall
Rangi Chase
Danny Brough
Jamie Peacock
James Roby
Lee Mossop
Carl Ablett
Gareth Hock
Sean O’Loughlin

Garreth Carvell
Eorl Crabtree
Jamie Jones-Buchanan
Rob Burrow

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Sam Burgess will play at 13.

With a full squad to pick from I'd go with:

Tomkins
Briscoe/Charnley
Reed
Watkins
Hall
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Mossop
Westwood
Ellis
Burgess

Burrow
Hock
Crabtree
Morley/Luke Burgess/Carvell/Hill

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Quote: Panda92 "I'd have a similar team to this but a few changes.

1. I'd play Briscoe over Charnley. Both very good but I think that Briscoe is slightly better at the moment. Briscoe has done really well in an average/poor side over the past couple of years, whereas Charnley has been in a very strong team to help him out. Also, Briscoe didn't do anything wrong the last time he played for England.
2. I'd swap out Watkins for Atkins. Watkins, whilst talented, has constantly been injured and Atkins has been playing very well and deserves to play.
3. I wouldn't have in Luke Burgess. Playing in the NRL doesn't mean that you're better than others, and I think that there have been better players than him this year. Patrick, Crabtree, etc, would all be ahead of him in my opinion.

So

Tomkins
Hall
Reed
Atkins
Briscoe
Widdop
Brough
Graham
Roby
Burgess
Hock
Ellis
O'Loughlin

McIllorum
Crabtree
Mossop
Westwood'"



Can't argue much with that squad, looks a pretty good side too. I'd only possibly put Robinson in instead of McIllorum to offer some impact from the bench.

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A very disappointing squad. It makes depressing reading it has to be said. We have 18 months to a World Cup and we continue to pick the same ageing failures that don't even have club level form any more. So frustrating to see talented young players not being given their chance. We should be rid of a quarter of these players and we can't expect success or even improvement for as long as they are around the squad regardless of their success at club level.

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