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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Over 30,000 sold for the dead rubber Leeds game already. Why go back the stadium/city that got 17,000?'"

Using your warped troll logic, all RL internationals should be played in London.....but you're not logical. You're just trolling to get a bite from Hull fans, because Wakey/Leigh fans have got your number.
34,147 for the last England test played at Elland Road some 7 years ago.....let's hope for your sake they beat that! c020.gif

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Nice bit of trolling there gutters, 34,147 was for England v Australia and a Four Nations Final, you can’t compare that figure to an England v New Zealand dead rubber, however the attendance will be close to that figure.

I do believe an England game should be held in London in every competition. Elland Road and either Wembley or London Olympic Stadium should be the first two on the list.

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Elland Road, like Anfield, is a god awful venue and location to host an International game.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Nice bit of trolling there gutters.'"

? Who?

And the definition of trolling is what you and a couple of others do, in starting threads that are designed to wind people up....like this thread, designed to get a bite from Leigh and Hull fans.

You claimed in another thread that You and Jean were spot on with your predictions and then confirmed you weren't spot on at all, but again all you really wanted was a rise from fans of Leigh.
And why is it that a Leeds fan (sic) has less than 4% of his posts on the Leeds Board?

Leeds is in the of RL heartlands with multiple professional sides a bus ride away....anything less than a full house would be appalling!

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Quote: Willzay "Elland Road, like Anfield, is a god awful venue and location to host an International game.'"

Rubbish, both these grounds are good enough for Preimer League/Championship Football, and they are good enough for Rugby League.

If Anfield and Elland Road aren’t up to scratch, where do you believe we should play? How about Craven Park, Wheldon Road and Belle Vue.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Rubbish, both these grounds are good enough for Preimer League/Championship Football, and they are good enough for Rugby League.

If Anfield and Elland Road aren’t up to scratch, where do you believe we should play? How about Craven Park, Wheldon Road and Belle Vue.'"



KCOM Stadium and Leigh Sporting Village are both suitable for premier league/championship football so what’s your point?

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Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "KCOM Stadium and Leigh Sporting Village are both suitable for premier league/championship football so what’s your point?'"

My point is these grounds don’t get good enough attendances to hold internationals, 17k and 5k is not acceptable.

We should hold games in London and Elland Road where we can get 30k+ 40k+ attendances.

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I agree with Sir Kevin Sinfield on this. 17k at hull is an embarrassment. Coventry, Milton Keynes or Isle of Man would get more

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "My point is these grounds don’t get good enough attendances to hold internationals, 17k and 5k is not acceptable.

We should hold games in London and Elland Road where we can get 30k+ 40k+ attendances.'"


Yet more trolling icon_rolleyes.gif It's not even subtle..... d040.gif

Hull have consistently delivered good crowds for England Internationals and FC have the 2nd Highest Average Attendance in SL. The last decade has now seen 4 England games played at the KC with the average being in excess of 22,000. The poor crowd this year is more a statement of how poorly the RFL marketed this series than anything else, with the failure to half fill Anfield a shocking effort......I was there for the first ever SL game at the KC and rate it as one of the best stadiums to watch Rugby I have ever been to, whilst Elland road is a dated soccer stadium that delivers poor views and cramp in equal measure.

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Quote: Ruune Rebellion "I agree with Sir Kevin Sinfield on this. 17k at hull is an embarrassment. Coventry, Milton Keynes or Isle of Man would get more'"


Of course you do, you are more than likely the same person icon_beat.gif

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Quote: Call Me God "Yet more trolling :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "You seem to contradict yourself. 17k or a 22k average is good, but 27k isn’t'"

Not at all....both posts lay the blame for poor attendances this year at the feet of the RFL.....you on the other hand want to blame Hull FC and Leigh RLFC, neither of whom own the stadiums in question.......because you're a troll c020.gif

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Quote: Call Me God "Not at all....both posts lay the blame for poor attendances this year at the feet of the RFL.....you on the other hand want to blame Hull FC and Leigh RLFC, neither of whom own the stadiums in question.......because you're a troll 17,000 in Hull, 27,000 in Liverpool and 30,000+ in Leeds. All three of these games have been organised and marketed by the RFL, that is a constant. It cannot be the reason the attendance at the 1st test was so poor compared to the 2nd and 3rd test.

I don’t blame specifically Hull FC, I blame the whole city, and wouldn’t take an international back there. If we have another 3 match series games should be held in, Leeds, London then Manchester or Liverpool.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "17,000 in Hull, 27,000 in Liverpool and 30,000+ in Leeds. All three of these games have been organised and marketed by the RFL, that is a constant. It cannot be the reason the attendance at the 1st test was so poor compared to the 2nd and 3rd test.

I don’t blame specifically Hull FC, I blame the whole city, and wouldn’t take an international back there. If we have another 3 match series games should be held in, Leeds, London then Manchester or Liverpool.'"


The crowd in Hull was disapointing and I won’t shy away from that, but the Leeds game in particular has benefited from two good quality tests being played before it on the BBC to a big TV audience, the general public are far more aware that England are playing than they were 3 weeks ago. Liverpool also benefited from being the only west of the Pennines fixture.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "17,000 in Hull, 27,000 in Liverpool and 30,000+ in Leeds. All three of these games have been organised and marketed by the RFL, that is a constant. It cannot be the reason the attendance at the 1st test was so poor compared to the 2nd and 3rd test.

I don’t blame specifically Hull FC, I blame the whole city, and wouldn’t take an international back there. If we have another 3 match series games should be held in, Leeds, London then Manchester or Liverpool.'"


So, in Liverpool, you have 4 SL clubs in fairly close proximity to Anfield, including 3 of the "big 4" and in Hull you have 2, with the next nearest clubs being 65 miles away ?
There is also a decent track record for previous internationals at Hull but, you are so worldly wise that you think Hull shouldn't stage another game.
Nothing to do with poor promotion / advertising ??
From the people near us, many have chosen to attend Leeds, due to its close proximity and their "fondness for Elland Road", although personally, I prefer either Anfield or the KCOM.
There probably should have been a game in London, which actually may have helped with publicity etc as neither Hull, Leigh and Liverpool have the same "pull".
Anyway, series won and Elland Road should be a celebration although, for ticket sales, it may have been handy if the series stood at 1 - 1.

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