Fair post, but Abdull was sin binned against you wasn't he? I remember someone going off for another crusher on Richardson.

I have not once said otherwise. I agree with you, it wasn't a dirty game.

I don't like the fact that players who are on the receiving end of crusher tackles are said to be play acting. It's can be very painful. There are areas of the game where play acting needs to be stopped, which everyone clearly recognises. But I don't think crusher tackles are one of the areas.



Is that actually true though?? I've never said it myself. Cas last season were exceptional.

Great post.

all yellow cards were spot on decisions. good to see Saints winding people up by being a good team again. big off day today, mind, but kept our heads and got through.

That's embarrassing. Saying "we're back!", when you've won nothing yet?

aside from our good performance today there is another positive to the defeat. it means that we can now concentrate fully on a strong league finish and target a place in the top 4. saints and wigan are still to visit the KC before the super 8s, and then we get 2 weekends off at semi final and final stages. also in the 8s, given a favourable set of fixtures, we might benefit from whoever is in the final having a post match mini slump (like we have the last couple of years). Just need to get a few troops back, especially Sneyd and there's every possibility we could do something at the back end for a change.

need to sort our discipline though, its costing us at the moment.

the bitter reaction from all sides says enough really

Whereas you’ve never really been there

The thing is, just like Wendyball, we now do not know who is play acting and who isn’t because there’s so much diving and feigning of injuries that the games gone feral for cheating.

Instead of the tough rugby league players of yesteryear we now have a bunch of cheats mincing around every club.

What bitter reaction? No one's denying Saints have been the best team because the league table doesn't lie, but there's a lot of rugby to be played and they could do what Cas did last year. What do Saints fans honestly expect the rest of us to do? Have an orgasm every time Barba scores a try?

As someone else suggested, perhaps any player who receives on field treatment should have to leave the pitch until they are waved back on by the ref. Similar to what they do in football.

I know it hasn't prevented diving/feigning injury in football, but I think it would negate it as players wouldn't want their side going down to 12 players for any amount of time as it's hard enough playing with 13 as it is.

Abdull wasn’t sin binned and the decision to sin bin Houghton was correct. I agree though that’s the faking injury from potential high tackles and crusher tackles needs to stop and Richardson was out of order. However, Kelly and Miloudi both also faked injury and were in the wrong.

The moaning at the two other sin binnings are laughable. LMS may have been over aggressive but that isn’t an offence when wrestling to play the ball. Washbrook was completely stupid in kneeing LMS no matter how soft it was and Amor was binned against Cas for similar. The Matongo one was also correct, he couldn’t have been any later. Their performance was great but they let themselves down with their lack of discipline.

I’m also loving the Hull fans saying they’d beat us in the playoff semi finals. I think some of you are choosing to forget we comfortably beat you 26-12 with no Barba and on paper your squad was stronger that day. The reality is today we had an off day and blew 3 or 4 easy try’s that we’ve been finishing off all season. To call us ordinary and overhyped when we’ve easily been the best team in the league this season is hilarious. And please keep the bitterness and hate coming, it’s great. A good game between two good sides with a great refereeing performance.

Comments like ‘saints got lucky’ and that we are ‘ordinary’ and ‘overhyped’ are bitter. The top sides in SL are naturally hated by fans of other sides and people have enjoyed Saints not being at the top for the last 10 years (2014 aside). Now we are back playing well again people don’t like it. If you can’t see that then it’s because you’re choosing not to.

Spot on, the table doesn't lie but then neither does the fact that only 3 times in the last 9 seasons has the team in 1st place after 16 Rounds gone on to win the GF so it's fair to not be carried away and drooling over it like some Saints fans think we should be. Finish the job off then you'll get plaudits. It likes having a good 40 mins, meaningless if you throw it away at the end of the second 40.

Why do you keep bringing up that game? It was the third game of Easter after we had just played 70 minutes with 12 men v KR and then won a thriller against Wakefield. We were incredibly flat in that game and were missing all of our first choice back row.

You are clearly a very good side, but if we meet in the playoffs I have every confidence we can beat you.