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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Cokey "BTW - CMG will now go into hiding now that all his cheeky,quiet sing about London has backfired'"

No he won't......we were always going to have bad days.....
We had a bad day at the office v the French, whilst we didn't play to the conditions in the 2nd half against Leigh and got what we deserved. Fax, Rochdale and Dewsbury are MASSIVE games for London now, because if they can get to the return v Leigh with 3 wins under our belts I'd fancy us to win easily at home.....I'll admit I a not as comfortable in regards to the top spot, but I still feel 2nd place is achievable.

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Quote: Call Me God "No he won't......we were always going to have bad days.....
We had a bad day at the office v the French, whilst we didn't play to the conditions in the 2nd half against Leigh and got what we deserved. Fax, Rochdale and Dewsbury are MASSIVE games for London now, because if they can get to the return v Leigh with 3 wins under our belts I'd fancy us to win easily at home.....I'll admit I a not as comfortable in regards to the top spot, but I still feel 2nd place is achievable.'"


Oh c'mon, we gifted you your first 12 points with our countless mistakes, when we really should've put the game to bed. Seeing that you are a good number cruncher, It will be interesting to see if you find out what the % completion rate was.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Cokey "Oh c'mon, we gifted you your first 12 points with our countless mistakes, when we really should've put the game to bed. Seeing that you are a good number cruncher, It will be interesting to see if you find out what the % completion rate was.'"

London's was 43%....which was appalling. Leigh just played clever in the 2nd half and deserved it......well done, you're only 2 wins away from the 4 now, or 2 more losses from obscurity.......walk that line with care icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Call Me God "London's was 43%....which was appalling. Leigh just played clever in the 2nd half and deserved it......well done, you're only 2 wins away from the 4 now, or 2 more losses from obscurity.......walk that line with care
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The Easter weekend games show that Toronto, Toulouse and London on their best days are within a whisker of each other. All three deserve promotion to Super League.

If necessary the RFL needs to change the rules to make this happen.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The Easter weekend games show that Toronto, Toulouse and London on their best days are within a whisker of each other. All three deserve promotion to Super League.

If necessary the RFL needs to change the rules to make this happen.'"


Along with Leigh who were never in doubt wupping London. eusa_whistle.gif

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The Easter weekend games show that Toronto, Toulouse and London on their best days are within a whisker of each other. All three deserve promotion to Super League.

If necessary the RFL needs to change the rules to make this happen.'"


Why, because they are "within a whisker of each other" do they "deserve" promotion ?
Should you not include Featherstone in your supposition or, are traditional clubs now exempt from promotion.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "The Easter weekend games show that Toronto, Toulouse and London on their best days are within a whisker of each other. All three deserve promotion to Super League.

If necessary the RFL needs to change the rules to make this happen.'"


Why not go down the normal route of win your games, and if enough points then you will be promoted. The same rule with relegation.

Your constant plugging for Toronto, Toulouse and London to be given a SL slot makes you look desperate to have teams that so far haven't deserved their SL slot yet.

And going off your way of thinking, who would they replace.

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Quote: RoyBoy29 "Why not go down the normal route of win your games, and if enough points then you will be promoted. The same rule with relegation.

Your constant plugging for Toronto, Toulouse and London to be given a SL slot makes you look desperate to have teams that so far haven't deserved their SL slot yet.

And going off your way of thinking, who would they replace.'"


Correct Roy.

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Quote: RoyBoy29 "Why not go down the normal route of win your games, and if enough points then you will be promoted. The same rule with relegation.

Your constant plugging for Toronto, Toulouse and London to be given a SL slot makes you look desperate to have teams that so far haven't deserved their SL slot yet.

And going off your way of thinking, who would they replace.'"


Salford, Widnes, and either Wakefield or Hull KR. (My preference is Wakefield go down because of their paltry fan base and dreadful ground).

That would make a fantastic Super LeagueWigan
St Helens
Warrington

Leeds
Hull FC
Hull KR
Huddersfield
Castleford

London

Catalans
Toulouse

Toronto[/i

That would leave room for future expansion to include [iNew York[/i and [iBoston[/i in a 14 team Super League, and later [iMontreal[/i and [iAvignon[/i in a 16 team Super League, and even later possibly [iPhiladelphia[/i and [iParis[/i in an 18 team Super League. Once we got to the 14 team situation I have described, the media in Britain and France would start to sit up and take notice of Super League. By the time we get to 16 teams the same will happen to the media in north America. However this scenario assumes two major developments:

(1) a switch to licencing from P & R by the RFL.

(2) a recruitment of majority local players from the expansion countries, because there aren't enough quality English or Antipodean players to fill 16 or 18 SL teams.
Toulouse is showing that this is no pie-in-the-sky regarding France, because they now have a large majority of French players. They only need a couple more Antipodeans to compete well in Super League. Toulouse's ascent into Super League will attract more French youth away from rugby union and into our game. The same thing will happen, though more slowly perhaps, in the case of the north American teams.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Salford, Widnes, and either Wakefield or Hull KR. (My preference is Wakefield go down because of their paltry fan base and dreadful ground).

That would make a fantastic Super LeagueWigan
St Helens
Warrington

Leeds
Hull FC
Hull KR
Huddersfield
Castleford

London

Catalans
Toulouse

Toronto[/i

That would leave room for future expansion to include [iNew York[/i and [iBoston[/i in a 14 team Super League, and later [iMontreal[/i and [iAvignon[/i in a 16 team Super League, and even later possibly [iPhiladelphia[/i and [iParis[/i in an 18 team Super League. Once we got to the 14 team situation I have described, the media in Britain and France would start to sit up and take notice of Super League. By the time we get to 16 teams the same will happen to the media in north America. However this scenario assumes two major developments





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Quote: Cokey "'"


Brilliantly reasoned rebuttal.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Brilliantly reasoned rebuttal.'"

Current average attendances for homes games in 2018........I suspect anything south of 5k has no place at the top table so London and Toulouse are non-starters and Toronto need to declare real gates this year and no la la land ones......

Catalans 7,551
Huddersfield 5,794
Widnes 5,351
Wakefield 5,112

Salford 3,421
Leigh 3,644
Featherstone 2,405
Toulouse 2,134
Halifax 1,741
London 1,072
Toronto 0... icon_lol.gif

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You may laugh but it’s likley Toronto will top your attendance table come the end of the season, despite been an expansion club in the Championship.

That’s pretty poor for the Super League clubs that have been around for 100+ years.

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Salford, Widnes, and either Wakefield or Hull KR. (My preference is Wakefield go down because of their paltry fan base and dreadful ground).

That would make a fantastic Super LeagueWigan
St Helens
Warrington

Leeds
Hull FC
Hull KR
Huddersfield
Castleford

London

Catalans
Toulouse

Toronto[/i

That would leave room for future expansion to include [iNew York[/i and [iBoston[/i in a 14 team Super League, and later [iMontreal[/i and [iAvignon[/i in a 16 team Super League, and even later possibly [iPhiladelphia[/i and [iParis[/i in an 18 team Super League. Once we got to the 14 team situation I have described, the media in Britain and France would start to sit up and take notice of Super League. By the time we get to 16 teams the same will happen to the media in north America. However this scenario assumes two major developments


FFS! Someone get him sectioned before he invades Poland!

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