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| Quote: Nothus "I think the overseas players signed from Bradford during our most recent period of admin/liquidation were granted exemptions from all quotas, basically to help them find employment at another club easier.
Kieren Moss will definitely fall under this bracket, and maybe Mitch Clark too (although technically they had signed Clark before the sh*t hit the fan and the exemptions were granted).'"
I think they did similar for the Crusaders at the time, and also granted dispensation to oversees players already here when the Non-Fed rules got brought in (2008?). At the time, I recall it was a max of 7 quota and 7 non-fed, but the "quota" part has since been removed a few years ago.
Ironically, it was clubs like Rovers which forced the changing of the rules by taking the pi£$ out of the original quota restrictions via passports (Vella, Galea etc). I'm sure in 2007 they had 11 or 12
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| Quote: DGM "I think they did similar for the Crusaders at the time, and also granted dispensation to oversees players already here when the Non-Fed rules got brought in (2008?). At the time, I recall it was a max of 7 quota and 7 non-fed, but the "quota" part has since been removed a few years ago.
Ironically, it was clubs like Rovers which forced the changing of the rules by taking the pi£$ out of the original quota restrictions via passports (Vella, Galea etc). I'm sure in 2007 they had 11 or 12
Wrong , we did try to get round it by trying to get maltese passports for Vella and Galea but the RFL wouldn't allow it
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| Quote: fun time frankie "Wrong , we did try to get round it by trying to get maltese passports for Vella and Galea but the RFL wouldn't allow it'"
Ok. The point still stands though doesn't it, whoever the players were that you somehow squeezed under the quota. You tried to get round the rules, and the rules were changed.
10 years on and nothings improved that much at Rovers, still bending the rules and relying on dispensation.
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| Quote: DGM "I've explained all this to you before Ronnie. Passports and where you're born don't matter anymore, it's whether they're classed as Federation (RLEF) or Non-Federation trained. You're allowed 7 of the latter. Of course, the RFL can also grant special dispensation.'"
And who is Ronnie, my name is James.
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| Quote: Nothus "I think the overseas players signed from Bradford during our most recent period of admin/liquidation were granted exemptions from all quotas, basically to help them find employment at another club easier.
Kieren Moss will definitely fall under this bracket, and maybe Mitch Clark too (although technically they had signed Clark before the sh*t hit the fan and the exemptions were granted).'"
Mitch Clark was born in Britain, therefore holds a British passport so does not count on the quota.
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| Quote: DGM "Ok. The point still stands though doesn't it, whoever the players were that you somehow squeezed under the quota. You tried to get round the rules, and the rules were changed.
10 years on and nothings improved that much at Rovers, still bending the rules and relying on dispensation.'"
Oh the irony of your post coming from the fan of a club who rely heavily on overseas players to be 5th, yes 5th in SL!
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| Quote: robinrovers10 "Mitch Clark was born in Britain, therefore holds a British passport so does not count on the quota.'"
Nothing to do with passports or where you're born Ronnie, for the 3rd time now.
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| Quote: moxi1 "Oh the irony of your post coming from the fan of a club who rely heavily on overseas players to be 5th, yes 5th in SL!'"
We have 7 Non-Fed players. Clubs are allowed 7 Non-Fed players. No dispensation required.
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| Quote: moxi1 "Oh the irony of your post coming from the fan of a club who rely heavily on overseas players to be 5th, yes 5th in SL!'"
Rely heavily?
Talanoa, Tuimavave, Fonua, Michaels, Manu, Kelly, Minichiello
So 7 out of 28/29 players we have used this year - hardly a heavy reliance.
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| Quote: DGM "We have 7 Non-Fed players. Clubs are allowed 7 Non-Fed players. No dispensation required.'"
What about dispensation for matongo, must be something there. At the end of the day, you're trying to say rovers use way more overseas players then others and we need them. Yes we do need them like every other club, but we have a couple who probably won't play when the 8s start.
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| Quote: moxi1 "What about dispensation for matongo, must be something there. At the end of the day, you're trying to say rovers use way more overseas players then others and we need them. Yes we do need them like every other club, but we have a couple who probably won't play when the 8s start.'"
Ahh, another example of a Rovers fan knowing absolutely nothing about the Non-Fed rules.
Let me say this again sloooowly for you Moxi. FEDERATION TRAINED. Hull FC are in the RLEF Federation and Masi Matongo has been registered at Hull a number of years. It has nothing to do with whether he was born in Harare or Hull, or what his passport says.
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| Quote: moxi1 "What about dispensation for matongo, must be something there.'" Why must there be something there?
Quote: moxi1 " At the end of the day, you're trying to say rovers use way more overseas players then others and we need them. Yes we do need them like every other club, but we have a couple who probably won't play when the 8s start.'" Hull KR have and do rely on overseas players more than most clubs, they have a poor history of youth development and a long history of using as many overseas players as they can get past the RFL.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Why must there be something there?
Hull KR have and do rely on overseas players more than most clubs, they have a poor history of youth development and a long history of using as many overseas players as they can get past the RFL.'"
You no sweet fa sunbeam, so take your drivel somewhere else.
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| I'm surprised no ones mentioned the Willie Mason/Michael Dobson run around.
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| Quote: DGM "Ahh, another example of a Rovers fan knowing absolutely nothing about the Non-Fed rules.
Let me say this again sloooowly for you Moxi. FEDERATION TRAINED. Hull FC are in the RLEF Federation and Masi Matongo has been registered at Hull a number of years. It has nothing to do with whether he was born in Harare or Hull, or what his passport says.'"
So you have 8 players that are not of British nationality but make out we get dispensation for a squad of 40 players all of who are not of British nationality because we rely on getting dispensation from the rfl.
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