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| Guess this means Hunslet isn't in Leeds or Fev in Wakefield
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| Quote: Salford red all over "And in a nutshell is a prime example of the kid taking his ball home. goodnight.'"
that is brilliant.
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| Quote: Salford red all over "Now I know your the kid who doesn't give up or at least takes his ball home when he's had enough, but to say the City of Salford is in Manchester is just utter nonsense and total claptrap .
Salford is a major UK city which homes giants of industry like the BBC and ITV . It's a city with it's own Cathedral and University. So please don't ever say Salford is in Manchester.
The City of Salford has borders with the City of Manchester that's where it ends.'"
To anyone outside of Salford... Salford is just part of Manchester. Sorry to break it to you. Manchester United even play in Salford, or is Trafford its own city as well?
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| How is this even an argument? Salford isn't in Manchester, that is just simply a fact. The city of Salford and the city of Manchester are separate cities. They might both be in the Greater Manchester administrative area but saying Salford is in Manchester is like saying St Helens is in Liverpool.
Also, Manchester United don't play in Salford and Trafford isn't a city. United play in Old Trafford, which is in the town of Stretford, which is in the borough of Trafford, not the city of Manchester or the city of Salford.
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To anyone outside of Salford... Salford is just part of Manchester. Sorry to break it to you. Manchester United even play in Salford, or is Trafford its own city as well?'"
Well those people are completely ignorant then.
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| Quote: TrinityIHC "To anyone outside of Salford... Salford is just part of Manchester. Sorry to break it to you. Manchester United even play in Salford, or is Trafford its own city as well?'"
No. They play in Trafford. Which is not in Salford.
Salford and Manchester are two cities within the metropolitan county of Greater Manchester.
Like Leeds, Bradford and Wakefield are cities within the metropolitan county of West Yorkshire.
Is Wakefield in Leeds?
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| Quote: northmanchesterdevil "No. They play in Trafford. Which is not in Salford.
Salford and Manchester are two cities within the metropolitan county of Greater Manchester.
Like Leeds, Bradford and Wakefield are cities within the metropolitan county of West Yorkshire.
Is Wakefield in Leeds?'"
Who cares?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Who cares?'"
Indeed. Where's that ignore button....
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| Quote: Salford red all over "And in a nutshell is a prime example of the kid taking his ball home. goodnight.'"
You're another one that just doesn't 'understand' join the club ha ha
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| Quote: TrinityIHC "Behave - Salford is about 2.5 miles from Manchester City Centre!'"
Why should I behave I live in Salford and work in Manchester and what I have posted is correct, they are two separate places that are next to each other and share a boundary at the City centre where the River Irwell divides the two cities? You can't even get that right two and a half miles, the river isn't that wide, or were you thinking of something specifically in either Salford, or neighbouring Manchester when you got your pedometer out, say the distance between Salford University and Manchester University?
What I find mildly amusing is most of the 'experts' on here appear to be from West Yorkshire and they, you included, obviously don't know what you are on about
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Who cares?'"
You care, you are wrong, but, you care
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| Smokey , Smokey's shows his 4rse , Smokey shows his 4rse
Brilliant , best laugh I've had in ages
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| Quote: Uncle Rico "You care, you are wrong, but, you care'"
I really dont. It's not 1901 anymore. What parish you are from doesn't matter.
I have however enjoyed watching swing wildly from arguing that the game doesn't struggle under the yoke of the parochialism of small northern towns and cities to a full blooded vociferous defence of the borders, separation and independence of those same small northern towns and cities like the incompatability of those two ideas never even entered your head. Cognitive dissonance in action.
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| I stated (much) earlier that the issue is that both Liverpool and (Greater) Manchester both have two huge round ball clubs which suck the life and money out of other sport in the area. Other cities like Leeds and Hull only have one pro footy club, which damages RL income slightly but doesn't mean the round ball game dominates the whole metropolitan area.
FWIW When people say Manchester they just see Greater Manchester not the individual cities within it. Nearly everyone outside the local vicinities see it that way, there's no point fighting it.
So, if Salford is so close the Manchester, there are no professional RL clubs in the city of Manchester, why don't they just drive 10 mins and attend Salford?
My point is trying to show that Salford almost represents RL interest for Manchester, with a riduclously large catchment area yet their ridiculously low attendance make a mockery of the Super in SL. The team are going very well, and I'm sure the regular fans are as passionate as every other club yet it still can't get more fans even with all this going for it.
I refer to my comment at the top of this post, both young upstart round ball clubs are sucking the life and money out of the greater manchester area and no matter what our little but far superior sport does will change that.
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| uncle Rico, we have disagreed in the past but here you are 100% correct.
So, according to the Tykes, the parochialism of the 10 boroughs in Greater Manchester is something to despise and decry; and the effect of 8 professional football sides* (and a battery of non-professional sides) is to ignored. Amazing that pride in your community, a corner stone of RL in its heritage, can be so snidely commented on. Ignoring the obvious difference in accents between Salford and manchester (albeit many young men now copy a Gallagher-type patois for street cred), that Oldham and Bolton never ever consider themselves as Manchester (and as for Wigan... ).
Nobody on here has shown that the perceptions are wrong. So how do we use them?
* I include Stockport.
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| Quote: Gallanteer "
So, if Salford is so close the Manchester, there are no professional RL clubs in the city of Manchester, why don't they just drive 10 mins and attend Salford?
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You are 100% correct. And this is absolutely the pertinent question. Why don't they go to Salford? Id wager that perhaps it is because for the majority of most people's lifetime Salford have been a poor club, in a poor stadium, with little chance of success, who haven't reached out to them.
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