| FORUMS > The Virtual Terrace > Widnes Chief Exec want's the format to be changed...AGAIN |
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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection."
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Erm, well done on counting i guess.
While you are at it, can you tell us how long they last?'"
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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection."
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "
Spot on, same happens wi regards England playing mid-season games.
We should have a Roses match......oh we should get rid it's no good
We should have a game vs Wales or France.....oh we should get rid as its no competitive
We should have a game against the best overseas guys in SL......oh we should get rid as the overseas guys coming over aren't as good as they were several years ago.
We should have a Roses match..........
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| Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "icon_lol.gif ![]()
Hull FC much better off without him in my opinion. Still not sure why Widnes ever took him on.
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "
But that's what I'm trying to get across, it doesn't have to be a closed door which sterilised the game as you've put it. If the criteria were clear and achievable and strictly enforced by the RFL then in fact the door could be wide open with teams clearly knowing what they have to do to get in. This in return allows them to build for that and have a better long term chance at SL rather than a one off shot where yes, they might get up, but barring a miracle they'll find themselves in exactly the same dogfight next year.
Furthermore it doesn't matter to me if lower placed teams have nothing to play for at this point, that's because they've not been good enough, but I don't believe the constant threat of relegation will ever make them good enough either.
I believe the problem we had last time round was not franchising itself, but how it was administered.
And yes I'd also like midseason internationals, but that would also require it being stuck with long term.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "Spot on, same happens wi regards England playing mid-season games.
We should have a Roses match......oh we should get rid it's no good
We should have a game vs Wales or France.....oh we should get rid as its no competitive
We should have a game against the best overseas guys in SL......oh we should get rid as the overseas guys coming over aren't as good as they were several years ago.
We should have a Roses match..........'"
But is that a problem with A) the concept or B) the fans and weak minded RFL who listen to them? |
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IMO franchising is the answer if done correctly. Strict rules need to be in place for it to work and a governng body who has the balls to enforce them.
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When licencing was brought in and Widnes didn't get one, this bitter set of fans and the club were cry-ar*ing and demanding rules were changed to suit them. Now they are finally in SL but miles behind the top 5 they are again moaning and wanting changes to give them a chance of reaching the GF.
All start on nil points after 23 games?? What's that all about??
Widnes, however, know all about 'nil points' though having already been nilled at home twice this season. No way are they anywhere near good enough to get to Old Trafford, even if everyone started on zero.
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| Quote: DGM "I'm not sure why in RL some clubs feel it has a divine right to be in with a shout of winning the SL until the very end, despite their clubs performance during the year. You don't get the chairmen of middling Premier League clubs like Stoke moaning that they're too far off the top after 80% of the season. They know the format before they start.
If we go with his suggestion, the last few matches for Hull, Wigan, Catalans, Warrington would've been pointless too.
We had it before where a team could finish in the bottom half and still make the playoffs, rewarding mediocrity.
Unfortunately, until we have more than 7/8 strong clubs, there's not a lot we can do with the format.'"
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| Quote: RuddyScoosers "When licencing was brought in and Widnes didn't get one, this bitter set of fans and the club were cry-ar*ing and demanding rules were changed to suit them. Now they are finally in SL but miles behind the top 5 they are again moaning and wanting changes to give them a chance of reaching the GF.
All start on nil points after 23 games?? What's that all about??
Widnes, however, know all about 'nil points' though having already been nilled at home twice this season. No way are they anywhere near good enough to get to Old Trafford, even if everyone started on zero.'"
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Imagine if you finished top by ten points after 23 rounds, got all your points taken away, got a few injuries and poor ref decisions in the 8s and ended up finishing outside the top 4...
Widnes chairman just creamed himself too early this season when they won their first 6, probably got giddy with Leicester fever and put his house on at the bookies that they'd finish top 4 and now he's looking for someone to blame
That's Weirdness for you
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Everyone whinged when it was a top 8 playoff. Resetting the points to 0 effectively brings that back.
Top 4 playoff is fine.
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| Quote: BuckleyStreetWire "Imagine if you finished top by ten points after 23 rounds, got all your points taken away, got a few injuries and poor ref decisions in the 8s and ended up finishing outside the top 4...
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Imagine if you finish 9th in SL, get all your points taken away, have an injury crisis at the end of the year and end up being replaced in SL by 4th in the championship...... |
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Hey good point, never bought of that!
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