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| Quote: jesus-is-coming "Screw the cap,its held our sport back for to long,perfect example of a player being available and the rules stop him from staying in our sport'"
The salary cap that has held us back since the mighty Wigan brought the game to it's knees due to their overspending and without which, RL would be even more marginalised than it is now: CRAZY
Ferres is only available because of his off field antics and one assumes that he will continue to be paid by Huddersfield until someone comes in for him.
Great player but, if the rumours are correct, there wont necessarily be a mad rush to sign him.
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| I see Ferres I in the papers again this week. Nothing new so far as I can see.
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| Why what's he do done now?
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| For me it's a personal issue between Huby and Ferres.
If Giants want to sack him for it I think they'll find it hard.
I can't see any other team having a problem with him.
What he did isn't nice but it affected his and Huby's family. No one else.
The outrage is a bit over the top imho.
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| Quote: PopTart "For me it's a personal issue between Huby and Ferres.
If Giants want to sack him for it I think they'll find it hard.
I can't see any other team having a problem with him.
What he did isn't nice but it affected his and Huby's family. No one else.
The outrage is a bit over the top imho.'"
My thoughts exactly.
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| Quote: PopTart "For me it's a personal issue between Huby and Ferres.
If Giants want to sack him for it I think they'll find it hard.
I can't see any other team having a problem with him.
What he did isn't nice but it affected his and Huby's family. No one else.
The outrage is a bit over the top imho.'"
It messes with team spirit. Team mates are also mates.
Try sleeping around with a colleagues wife at work and see how many want to work with you.
They maybe professionals but they are human and keeping him as good as he is could do more damage. It would make for easy sledging from opposition teams.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "It messes with team spirit. Team mates are also mates.
Try sleeping around with a colleagues wife at work and see how many want to work with you.
They maybe professionals but they are human and keeping him as good as he is could do more damage. It would make for easy sledging from opposition teams.'"
This. If there's 1 main point other clubs should take from Leeds success over the last 10+ years it's that team spirit and having the right ethic and mentality is vital.
Unless Huby can totally forgive and forget the issue with Ferres then unfortunately for Hudds Ferres has to move on. And let's face it it's highly unlikely and completely understandable that Huby won't get along with Ferres.
It's not fair on Huddersfield really, but just one of those things. It's one of those situations where Huddersfield deserve a decent transfer fee but unfortunately probably won't get one.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "It messes with team spirit. Team mates are also mates.
Try sleeping around with a colleagues wife at work and see how many want to work with you.
They maybe professionals but they are human and keeping him as good as he is could do more damage. It would make for easy sledging from opposition teams.'"
Correct. For the sake of team spirit at the Giants Ferres has to go.
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| The Giants players refused to play alongside Ferres after it came out about what he'd done. He won't play for the club again.
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| Quote: Him "This. If there's 1 main point other clubs should take from Leeds success over the last 10+ years it's that team spirit and having the right ethic and mentality is vital.
Unless Huby can totally forgive and forget the issue with Ferres then unfortunately for Hudds Ferres has to move on. And let's face it it's highly unlikely and completely understandable that Huby won't get along with Ferres.
It's not fair on Huddersfield really, but just one of those things. It's one of those situations where Huddersfield deserve a decent transfer fee but unfortunately probably won't get one.'"
Leeds' team spirit is good because they are winning - team spirit would not be half as good if they hadn't had the success they have had over the golden generation.
Given the troubles that certain Leeds players have got into in recent years you can hardly say the club is a shining example where ethics come to mind either.
Leeds had a stroke of luck when so many quality youngsters came together all at the same time and the club has built on that platform and it should be applauded for such - but to put the club out as a bastion of moral fortitude is taking it a bit far.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Quote: Sal Paradise "This. If there's 1 main point other clubs should take from Leeds success over the last 10+ years it's that team spirit and having the right ethic and mentality is vital.
Unless Huby can totally forgive and forget the issue with Ferres then unfortunately for Hudds Ferres has to move on. And let's face it it's highly unlikely and completely understandable that Huby won't get along with Ferres.
It's not fair on Huddersfield really, but just one of those things. It's one of those situations where Huddersfield deserve a decent transfer fee but unfortunately probably won't get one.'"
Leeds' team spirit is good because they are winning - team spirit would not be half as good if they hadn't had the success they have had over the golden generation.
Given the troubles that certain Leeds players have got into in recent years you can hardly say the club is a shining example where ethics come to mind either.
Leeds had a stroke of luck when so many quality youngsters came together all at the same time and the club has built on that platform and it should be applauded for such - but to put the club out as a bastion of moral fortitude is taking it a bit far.'"
Why would a Leeds fan be so keen to undermine the culture that has been created at Leeds - maybe you're bitter because once again they proved your annual doom and gloom predictions wrong and frankly made you look a bit of a t!t.
Whilst I know Leeds have had individuals who have made mistakes, the strength of the team culture simply cannot be questioned..... And whilst players have made mistakes, there's not really been anything that would break the bond between the group, any issues have been external and the group/club have looked after the individual and tried to make them better people for it (Bailey and Hardaker are good examples of this).
Having said all that, I still don't think that means Leeds wouldn't or shouldn't be in for Ferres. As low as the act is, it's a personal issue and it's a one off (as far as we know). We don't now the full circumstances, and Mrs Huby is equally as guilty - it's not like the players wives from whichever club he moves to are going to find Ferres irresistible and quickly jump into bed with him at the earliest opportunity. If the Leeds team were happy to welcome him into the fold (which providing there's no close friends of Huby, in sure they would), then Leeds would no doubt be interested.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Leeds' team spirit is good because they are winning - team spirit would not be half as good if they hadn't had the success they have had over the golden generation.'"
What came first, the chicken or the egg? What came first, the winning or the team spirit? In 2011 and 2012 they fought back from dodgy league seasons that included quite a few bad losses to find ways to win.
And I don't think HIM ever claimed things were perfect, no doubt we know their has been up and downs and testing moments but they find a way to overcome them and that's what a team spirit is about.
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| Quote: ThePrinter "What came first, the chicken or the egg? What came first, the winning or the team spirit? In 2011 and 2012 they fought back from dodgy league seasons that included quite a few bad losses to find ways to win.
And I don't think HIM ever claimed things were perfect, no doubt we know their has been up and downs and testing moments but they find a way to overcome them and that's what a team spirit is about.'"
Team spirit comes from winning - it creates belief, I don't see many losing sides with great team spirit - I wonder why that is?
I agree with your second point but that comes from a belief system borne out of previous experience. Whilst they did turn things around in 2011 & 2012 the same didn't happen in 2013 & 2014 - so much for team spirit eh?
Leeds is by far the best run club in SL - but it doesn't always get things right.
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Leeds' team spirit is good because they are winning - team spirit would not be half as good if they hadn't had the success they have had over the golden generation.
Given the troubles that certain Leeds players have got into in recent years you can hardly say the club is a shining example where ethics come to mind either.
Leeds had a stroke of luck when so many quality youngsters came together all at the same time and the club has built on that platform and it should be applauded for such - but to put the club out as a bastion of moral fortitude is taking it a bit far.'"
Of course winning helps. But the club took a deliberate decision to encourage the right team spirit and ethic at all opportunities. Including which people would be at the club which people wouldn't. As an example the recent departures of Paul McShane, Liam Hood and Robbie Ward are examples of this policy.
Note - I did not say ethics. I said ethic, as in the team having the right attitude and ethic in the context of a team. Meaning you don't place yourself above the team and you work for it, not just for yourself.
Its why players like Ian Kirke were still at Leeds and getting a game regularly.
If this policy hadn't been adhered to I'm convinced we wouldn't have won as much as we have.
Now all this isn't an attack on Ferres. I don't know him, I don't know what he's like as a person or as a member of a team. But he's done something that could seriously affect his team. So that club has a decision to make, does Ferres individual quality make up for the huge negative effect he'll have on the team.
Personally I don't think it does. Or that anyone is good enough to make that up. Hence Carney's move from Castleford. So for me, Hudds HAVE to get rid in some fashion, like Cas.
That doesn't mean Ferres takes that negative effect on the team with him wherever he goes. It'd be up to his new club to decide what, if any, negative effect he does bring.
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