Nah....his brother resides in upper hutt. I live in tbe more salubrious surrounds of Korokoro, with views over the harbour to Wellington and the stadium......

Anderson grove Lower Hutt to be precise

Although he spends more time in ' Bedrocks ' than home

In summary, they said that Inglis was probably player of the tournament until that point, but that try swung it in Johnson's favour.

I have to say that the touch judge (Australian?) showed some do-dahs on that last play with the forward pass. I played it back and it wasn't obvious, although the call not obviously wrong, but the picture posted earlier suggests that had it gone to the video ref, it would have been a try.

What a tournament! The games were belters!

It wasn't an excellent advert for the game at all. It was more specifically an excellent advert for international RL. Unfortunately, that will be ignored by the game and the RL community as they quickly retreat back to focusing upon their respective domestic competitions and parochial one club interests.

The reason international RL is largely ignored by the rest of the outside world is because the game of RL treats its internationals as an off-season irrelevance or afterthought which plays a second fiddle role to domestic competitions like Super League, the NRL and Origin. Therefore, the fault lies with the game itself.

Blaming Rugby Union, the BBC, the national media, etc, for international RL's lack of exposure is looney tunes Moonie logic. They are not responsible for how RL governs itself, how it structures its international competitions and the level of importance it applies to them which, in the grand scheme of things, amounts to approximately naff all.

You must have another mass wedding to attend to shortly?

It has been an excellent tournament and with Somoa showing they can challenge some of the established sides it gives some hope for the future. Having Scotland in the next 4 Nations is a joke.

We still go back to the lack of credible teams when the sport is only played in 4/5 countries one of which is pretty dominant. Clubs are businesses the need their team to perform to keep the cash coming in. International RL has shown that apart from a few high points it struggles to attract crowds of any serious size. In cricket and RU the games relies on the international game for funding, if RL did that it would be bust. Without the clubs and the monies they invest in players you would not have an international game. If you take a different sport - cricket - Yorkshire commit time and money to the likes of Joe Root who will now only play for them when the ECB say so. Is that what you want - a dominant international game that pulls all the strings? It is no wonder there is zero interest in county cricket when its best players are excluded.

With all due respect Sal, you appear to have completely missed the point entirely.

One of the Moonies was having a whinge about this 4N tournament being ignored and in typical Moonie fashion laid the blame on outside influences, when in fact the reason why international RL is ignored is because the game itself affords it next to no credibility.

If the game itself treats international RL with such utter contempt, why should anyone else outside of the game be bothered with it?

RL doesn't treat the international game with contempt. It is realistic about its impact, there are 3/4 competitive sides why would you disrupt the regular season? What are you suggesting? a return to proper tours, so you would need to return to winter rugby or a 4 nations in the middle of the summer here where club rugby closes down for 6 weeks?

Ideally int rl would be big enpugh to pay for SL and NRL seasons to be 20 rounds freeing up oct and nov for internationals, but it isn't. Bit of a chicken and egg sadly.

There is no excuse for not having a properly laid out international calendar for the next 5 years though. The Aussies pulling out of the ashes tour is farcical. They should suffer a punishment for it.

We got Voss here in NZ and, yes, Ray Warren together with Andrew Johns and Wally Lewis did the Channel 9 commentary.

,top place Bedrocks

Back on topic (to be candid, where guttersnipe lives should be of no interest to anyone other than detectives from the Wellington police):

Has anyone seen a better individual half back try than Shaun Johnson's yesterday? The Little Master beat Daly Cherry-Evans with a dummy and acceleration, and then beat one of the best players in the world, Gregory Inglis, with a side step and scorching speed.

Lets give the positives a go EH? And stop all the moaning about items that are really irrelevant.

We have had the pleasure of witnessing one of the best sporting tournaments staged anywhere and, in any sport you care to mention, for years.
It is just a pity that so many will not have been as fortunate as we on here have been and either, out of choice or simply not being aware that this 4 Nations was being staged, did not join us and see it also.
And for that the press and media are totally to blame, for their concerted efforts to deny R/L any publicity, unless, that is, there is something that they perceive will detract the sport in any manner.

Should Football, RU, or any sport have had such an excitingly competitive tournament to watch those same papers would have been extolling it's virtues until Christmas and beyond.
R/L played to the standards we have seen over the last month is by far the best and most exciting team game on the planet and, rather than looking at, or for, any negatives, you all ought to be telling anyone and everyone just what a sporting treat they have just missed.

Yesterdays match was as good as it gets and anyone daft enough to deride that Australian side as third rate should be stoned. They withstood everything that an excellent NZ side threw at them and still at the death could have got the result.
Simply tremendous in it's every aspect, that game precisely displayed all that goes to make R/L, the best and most exhilarating team sport going.

ROFL