Oh right so the touch judges can't make a call as to whether the ball goes over the posts from directly behind the sticks either then because a skewed angle from the other side of pitch is just as relevant is it?

Re the Brough DG attempt

1. Should have sent it upstairs
2. Whatever the decision, either Hudds or Stains fan would be here now saying it was the wrong decision...

The TV shots were inconclusive to me.

Pretty much.

If it was given the other way, we'd have the same posts and dicussion on here, the only difference is the aggrieved posters would have saints avatars and names and not huddersfield ones.

There is the benefit of the doubt video decision available.

Looked like a pretty good DG to me.

One thing that will haunt Broughy is his "Cheating c***ts" tirade that could be clearly seen on TV.

Genuine question - has a DG ever been referred to the VR? Does anyone know if it's actually within the remit of the VR to rule on DGs? I can't recall a single instance and I've seen a few dodgier decisions that today's.

Also bear in mind that the ref has to have some doubt to even think about a referral. Given that the camera angle nearest to Bentham's position appeared to show the ball sailing over the post rather than between them he may have been 100% sure in his own mind that it missed.

If you want to point the finger at a single individual for Huddersfield losing then look no further than Ferres. He doesn't make that idiotic tackle then Huddersfield win.

Wasn't their one from lee briers vs Leeds at headingly many years ago referenced up to the vr?

You're correct, Bentham is clearly satisfied he is capable to make the call, there isn't a moment of indecision. Ultimately, if were calling for that, we might as well have every decision looked at, regardless of how confident the ref is in making the call.

If brough had hit it like Walsh, and it goes sailing through the posts, there wouldn't of been any doubt.

The nearest person to have that view was, oh yes the ref himself.

Bentham should be stood down for a game or two for todays decisions

Did Walsh's go through though? From one angle I saw it from, it didn't.

I saw that too and it should have been a penalty to the Giants without a doubt
I also thought that Broughs drop goal should have been allowed

Saints were only slightly more lucky than Wigan today though

There's a few people getting confused. What the video showed is neither here nor there. A DG is awarded by the referee. It has to be based on what he thinks he sees, and as we saw from the different angles, what a ref sees with a DG is entirely dependent upon where he's standing.

You don't get many DGs at the level I referee, but they're easily the hardest decision to make. You're trying to get the line set, watch the PTB, keep the offside for the chargedown (everyone's pumped up because it's in the red zone), and suddenly some bugger kicks it, and you have to whip round and make a snap decision from wherever you happen to be standing. If you're lucky, it goes through the posts so you can see it go behind the nearest post and in front of the furthest. But if it goes over the top, you have to take your best shot. It's a little harder than sitting on an armchair watching a slow motion replay from plum behind the sticks.

FWIW I thought it was a goal. But if I'd been on the pitch, especially given the "other" angle, I could well imagine deciding it wasn't.

There are ALWAYS 50-50 decisions in every game - ball-steal or loose carry; quick markers or not square; offside or good linespeed - and part of our game is that occasionally the officials get one wrong. If it happens in the first sixty minutes, nobody cares. If it happens in a one-sided game, nobody cares. If it happens but doesn't lead to a score, nobody cares. The ref is just the ref and gets on with stuff.

If it happens in the last minute of a tight cup tie on telly, with thousands watching and results in a deciding call, then everybody cares and you're a "cheating c**t".

I feel for Bentham, to be honest. Could happen to any of us, and it's just one of those things. Other than that, I thought he had a pretty good game.

Drop goals are definitely within the remit of the video ref, Danny brough had one referred to video ref in playoffs against Warrington in playoffs a few years ago.

What does Dr Mar think?